zoes highest winrate was 49% since her initial release

lolipopevelynn·Jul 18, 2018·2 votes·869 views

and she is still getting nerfs. just rework her asap before she is nerfed into the gutter simply for being "annoying".

28 Comments

Madsin25Jul 18, 20184 votes

She is the 2nd best mid laner behind talon. The nerfs they did was to stop her snowball from being so oppressive.

If you look closely she got the exact same nerfs as wukong and talon.

Malix FarwinJul 18, 20182 votes

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She is the 2nd best mid laner behind talon. The nerfs they did was to stop her snowball from being so oppressive.

If you look closely she got the exact same nerfs as wukong and talon.

She isn't even the top 10 mid laners right now diamond+ what are you smoking? I want you to know Aurelion Sol currently has a 59% WR. While you may say "well WRs arent everything", when your WR is that high it does.

Madsin25Jul 18, 20184 votes

Yea ok buddy keep abusing zoe while she lasts.

lolipopevelynnJul 18, 20182 votes

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She is the 2nd best mid laner behind talon. The nerfs they did was to stop her snowball from being so oppressive.

If you look closely she got the exact same nerfs as wukong and talon.

you honestly think she is the 2nd best mid laner?

Madsin25Jul 18, 20183 votes

Statistics don't lie as much as your annoying whining.

lolipopevelynnJul 18, 20182 votes

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Statistics don't lie as much as your annoying whining.

im reformed so i will refraim from calling you a retard and instead post this

https://champion.gg/statistics/#?roleSort=Middle&sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend

note the placement of zoe. statistically and practically speaking, zilean is much more toxic to lane against than zoe.

Madsin25Jul 18, 20183 votes

Champion.gg lmfao.

lolipopevelynnJul 18, 20181 votes

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Champion.gg lmfao.

i see you are a extra special case

http://na.op.gg/champion/statistics

that site you can use purely korea stats rather than NA. in korea she is 99th place midlaner. she is a very popular champ, but she is not a good champ.

Madsin25Jul 18, 20184 votes

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champions/

Open your eyes to the truth. I suggest you click on "best win".

lolipopevelynnJul 18, 20182 votes

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https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champions/

Open your eyes to the truth. I suggest you click on "best win".

League of Legends Patch 8.14 Last 7 Days Platinum+ Players

Last 7 Days Platinum+ Players

LAST 7 days

im pretty sure you are very stupid or illterate, but im reformed so i will just call you a troll instead. im done.

Madsin25Jul 18, 20182 votes

Am I getting gang banged by two zoe mains or am I imagining things?

lolipopevelynnJul 18, 20182 votes

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Am I getting gang banged by two zoe mains or am I imagining things?

guess you are illiterate after all. im an eve main.

xXRaichopXxJul 18, 20181 votes

Why are you bitching about Zoe then?

Malix FarwinJul 18, 20181 votes

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https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champions/

Open your eyes to the truth. I suggest you click on "best win".

Best Win doesnt mean a whole lot when literally the difference between Zoe and say Ahri(who got buffed) is only 3%. Furthermore this would also suggest that lol Kog Maw is OP because he has a higher best win then Zoe.

Madsin25Jul 18, 20181 votes

Wow you are smart man...there is hope after all.

Malix FarwinJul 18, 20181 votes

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Wow you are smart man...there is hope after all.

You are not very intelligent, Kog Maw is no where near OP.

Malix FarwinJul 18, 20181 votes

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Champion.gg lmfao.

Challanger: http://www.op.gg/statistics/champion/ Master: http://www.op.gg/statistics/champion/ Diamond: http://www.op.gg/statistics/champion/ Plat: http://www.op.gg/statistics/champion/

do not like that source?

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/current/platinum/plus/champions/

In soloq she is fine, people who were abusing W second was the problem which is what they were doing in the LCS and why they nerfed W because it would have little effect on soloq and a huge effect in the LCS.

https://youtu.be/hRm6fAD262M?t=47m31s

Aka you have no idea what you are talking about.

BestPudgeNAJul 18, 20183 votes

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and she is still getting nerfs. just rework her asap before she is nerfed into the gutter simply for being "annoying".

Win rates are often deceiving. Zoe even after this nerf is still just disgustingly OP. Zoe has the highest presence of any champ in pro play for this season not because she is "annoying" But because she is just flat out OP.

Malix FarwinJul 18, 20181 votes

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Win rates are often deceiving. Zoe even after this nerf is still just disgustingly OP. Zoe has the highest presence of any champ in pro play for this season not because she is "annoying" But because she is just flat out OP.

Thresh was a pretty persistent support in the LCS for a long time but no one considered him "disgustingly OP" or even OP. Presence doesn't mean anything on it's own just like win rates doesn't mean anything on its own. Her W was a little over-tuned they adjusted it and now its time to move on.

Madsin25Jul 18, 20183 votes

They nerfed vladimirs E by a whole 20% ap ratio and what did it do? His winrate got BETTER.

Sometimes a toxic design is a toxic design and not much can be done except into the gutter.

Malix FarwinJul 18, 20182 votes

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They nerfed vladimirs E by a whole 20% ap ratio and what did it do? His winrate got BETTER.

Sometimes a toxic design is a toxic design and not much can be done except into the gutter.

oh its a waste of time to argue with you so i won't your brain is clearly broken somewhere.

BestPudgeNAJul 18, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malix Farwin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ngAyEmIp,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-07-18T16:55:23.031+0000)

Thresh was a pretty persistent support in the LCS for a long time but no one considered him "disgustingly OP" or even OP. Presence doesn't mean anything on it's own just like win rates doesn't mean anything on its own. Her W was a little over-tuned they adjusted it and now its time to move on.

She has a high WR in pro play also. Her W damage isn't close to the problem. The 8 silly things added to her E. The fact W doesn't even have a 2 second CD, her non ultimate gated burst and RNG of minion drops are all problems she will continue to have and which will make her OP.

Malix FarwinJul 18, 20181 votes

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She has a high WR in pro play also. Her W damage isn't close to the problem. The 8 silly things added to her E. The fact W doesn't even have a 2 second CD, her non ultimate gated burst and RNG of minion drops are all problems she will continue to have and which will make her OP.

When you compare her to old nidalee, thats where you lost me. Nothing like old nidalee. Q alone cannot one shot you. She cannot spam it nearly as often(has a long CD till you get a ton of CDR even then it caps around 4s), she cannot simply jump away if you try to get close to her. She cannot simply hear herself off any poke dmg, and to even burst people its pretty much required that you land E and a charged Q.

I didnt have to do any of those things with old Nidalee, on top of that she still had traps for vision. Old Nidalee was spam Qs till 1 landed and 1 shot u, the rest of her kit only mattered if someone even thought to go after you.

Further more there are plenty of champions that have a ton of burst outside of their ultimate and the ultimate themselves contribute little to it. Example Anivia and Taliyah .

BestPudgeNAJul 18, 20181 votes

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When you compare her to old nidalee, that's where you lost me... Rambling

Who the fuck said anything about "old Nidalee"

EedatJul 18, 20182 votes

Not entirely true

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/zoe/platinum

I'm seeing peak 52.5% WR. Zoe is going to end up like Nidalee. When she's even just decent in lower ELOs she's going to be outright oppressive in high ELO and pick/ban in LCS.

Malix FarwinJul 18, 20181 votes

Top performers, one tricks, and LCS. With that being said i do think some mid laners( Zed AurelionSol ) should of been nerfed with her but do i feel salty or angry about the nerf? not really especially since it targeted the right thing i suppose.