Please make pinks reveal invisible champions again

DoktorKaiser·Sep 22, 2017·18 votes·802 views

I am sick and tired of Twitch jungle level 2 ganks when he just appears next to me and either kills me or forces me to back after 30 seconds of laning. I am sick and tired of Akali pressing her aoe zhonyas button and chilling there unless you got an AOE mage or CC. I am sick and tired of Vayne, Rengar and Talon 1 shotting me from nowhere because there is not a single thing I could possibly do to counter them. In my honest opinion you fucked up big time with those changes and its time to revert...

10 Comments

SlythionSep 22, 201715 votes

Twitch does get seen by control wards...so does Rengar

Jet SettSep 23, 20172 votes

Indeed, the problem now is Control Wards revealing less area than old Pink Wards.

Tyto MorsSep 22, 201710 votes

umm, control wards reveal twitch...... akali no. rengar gets revealed by control ward....... vayne no. talon no, but you generally see a shit ton of floating knives unless he comes from fog of war(like a good distance too, to make sure you cant see his blades) but you can stop that from happening with normal wards.

edit: vayne is the only one i think is kinda bs. comes up to often during ult duration. shaco atleast can see the orange puff of smoke(it can even be seen in the fog of war). kha's is pretty short to use as a real gap closer without also using his e(upgraded). akali is limited to her zone.

SteelflameSep 23, 20171 votes

Kha can only really gank from stealth avoiding wards with ult upgrade+mobies and maybe Ghostblade. If he doesn't have all of that, he won't make it to you in just about any situation without blowing both charges of his ult just to try and close the gap, and requires damn near perfect pre-planning.

Mysticman89Sep 23, 20175 votes

A lot of the champions that have invisibility (which does not include twitch), have a good chunk of their power budget sunk into that invisibility.

What that means is if you changed them to camouflage instead (so that they're revealed by pinks), then they'd need to receive sizable power buffs elsewhere to compensate. While that doesn't necessarily translate to more damage, considering your problem doesn't actually come from what you think it does I suspect you'd feel the resulting champions to be particularly OP.

AmazoXSep 23, 20173 votes

Dude, Twitch & Rengar get revealed by control wards.

Akali,Talon & Vayne do not.

The game has bigger problems right now, The ADC's are fucking op.

DariusDemiurgeSep 22, 20172 votes

It should at least show thier echo like when you hit a stealth champ and make them appear on the minimap while the are in range like radar.

Tyto MorsSep 22, 20171 votes

no. the game should not ping the map for the entire enemy team just because you hit them stealth, you should do that, because that then makes champs that use some sort of stealth somewhat a liability in terms of vision. it makes it to easy, is what im trying to say.

AdeBugSep 22, 20171 votes

fk eve

Teridax68Sep 23, 20171 votes

As several other players have mentioned, Twitch and Rengar are already detected by pink wards, even if the reveal radius is shorter than before. Even if you were to buff stealth reveals, though, the issue would remain that those champions would still be able to burst you down from out of nowhere when not around a pink ward, and would otherwise have a large part of their gameplay invalidated otherwise. Really, the problem with those champions isn't that they get to burst you down from nowhere, but that they give players insufficient time to react when they do initiate combat, which isn't really an issue with stealth specifically (champions with high mobility can do the same). Because of this, it might be better to remove the upfront burst on the offending kits, and instead back-load it by at least a second, so that they can't kill you the moment they jump you.