They will then use these following excuses for when they are called out for being trash.
"wards prevent you from being ganked" "its not my fault you were being camped"
meanwhile you are being thrown out of lane because you are in a 1v3 while you watch your jungler die ganking other lanes.
44400862_DEL5 votes"wards prevent you from being ganked" "its not my fault you were being camped" ummm.. these are kind of facts... its like when a riven dies top 1 v 5 and then gos "wtf noob support not warding enough" and the support gos "i cant ward all the lanes"
UltraSceptile2 votes[{quoted}](name=Arcane Mastery,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ncykyLYm,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-08-29T14:43:59.515+0000)
"wards prevent you from being ganked" "its not my fault you were being camped" ummm.. these are kind of facts... its like when a riven dies top 1 v 5 and then gos "wtf noob support not warding enough" and the support gos "i cant ward all the lanes"
Sure, does help when that enemy heimerdinger has you shoved up to tower and you get ganked by two people and now you're fucked in lane while your jungle lee sin tries to get 150 CS by 20 minutes.
Your job as a jungler is to put pressure on the map and get objectives while snowballing the team as a result. Your job is not to do whatever the fuck you want and jack off in the jungle when enemies are shoving your laners up to their tower overextending like idiots but you still want to just farm all day.
Sure if your laner overextends and constantly dies it's his fault, but I don't know how many times I've told my gragas to gank old mordekaiser because he E Q shoves the wave to my tower and i lost 1/4 of my health whenever I try to CS, and he just spams in chat, not my job to win your lane, just ward, and cries in all chat I'm a crying toxic laner who flames all game.
44400862_DEL1 votesYour job as a jungler is to put pressure on the map. i play shyvana and udyr and i have a 60+ winrate on both. pressure is more methods then just ganking your lane. and expecting me to gank and win your lane for you is like me expecting you to have 120 cs by 10 mins and be 10/0 have the whole enemy jungle warded. counter jungle them. roam. ect. for you to do that you would need to be a pretty fucking amazing laner. and for junglers its the same. i admit junglers that ONLY afk jungle r fucking morons but lets list all the things junglers got to do (providing they actually are trying to jungle and not playing farming simnlator)
now lets run over what laners have to do.
F031 votes[{quoted}](name=Arcane Mastery,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ncykyLYm,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-08-29T14:43:59.515+0000)
"wards prevent you from being ganked" "its not my fault you were being camped" ummm.. these are kind of facts... its like when a riven dies top 1 v 5 and then gos "wtf noob support not warding enough" and the support gos "i cant ward all the lanes"
wards dont stop people from walking up to you under your tower and smacking your shit
wards dont put up a invisible barrier that people can't walk through
please show me a video where a ward prevented someone from walking into lane.
44400862_DEL1 votesthis only happens if they say... did ward the first 20 times and now the enemy is fed. the is literally no way a jungler should be out damaging a tower in the laning phase so if you can 1 v 2 undertower that shows that either your really bad or they have already snowballed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY430v1jVB8 ill just leave this here (i know its an animated song not a video of showing how wards save lives but just youtube it)
F031 votes{quoted} the is literally no way a jungler should be out damaging a tower in the laning phase so if you can 1 v 2 undertower that shows that either they have already snowballed.
thats the whole point to why i made his thread :|
44400862_DEL1 votesthats the whole point to why i made his thread :|
well tbh if they have already snowballed thats the laners fault unless its the jungler feeding them. Lastshadow9 (that coach dude i recommend googling him) explains this to some gold dude for about 20 mins going "it doesn't matter how good or bad your team or the enemy is. if your bad enough to fuck up. to allow them to abuse you, you deserve to lose"
asamu2 votesWell, the jungler should actually be focusing on lanes that are head to snowball them, because often ganking a lane that is behind just isn't worth it, so if they see you getting camped top, they should be camping bot/mid.
The other points are valid though.
F031 votesWell, the jungler should actually be focusing on lanes that are head to snowball them, because often ganking a lane that is behind just isn't worth it, so if they see you getting camped top, they should be camping bot/mid.
The other points are valid though.
bot lane had already won their lane and elise and nautilus fed jax
Critmaster Garen1 votes
F031 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ncykyLYm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-08-29T14:40:04.801+0000)
ftfy
Critmaster Garen1 votesftfy
i mean nunu is captain counterungle. and his ganks usually rely on nailing someone down with his snowball anyways.
but most of the time he lives in the enemy jungle and chomps through the opposing junglers camps until that guy is 4 levels behind. its a pretty good option for him.
xxbrad2o12xx1 votesI love these qq threads so you lost a game, move on get over it.
the Elise in your last game probably didn't play very good and you probably didn't do anything but escalated it into more toxicity. Poachers might be in need of a buff but it's not total garbage.
