Soooo........ Nunu is up to a 57% win rate

Eedat··37 votes·3,099 views

https://na.op.gg/champion/nunu/statistics/jungle

Can we not do that thing we did with Ivern and deny he's overtuned because he's not a damage dealer which let him be blatantly overtuned for many, MANY months before finally getting the nerfs he deserved?

That would be great. Thanks.

47 Comments

Sp33d Zer04 votes

He literally just got a hot fix to tune him down a bit before the nerf him in an upcoming patch.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votes

so is this what the boards do... look at any champ that happens to be strong for a moment and cry that they are OP and needs nerfs ?

just for months on end when people were crying over ivern i noted and commented that NUNU had a higher win rate.... every one ignored it.... their lil circle jerk of hateful tears were on ivern... now that he is out of the way... lets focus on the YETI NOW

well due to the buff and reduced cost of cinderhulk all tank junglers are gonna be stronger ... so better buff yi,lee,kha, rengar right ?

HitMyLine1 votes

so true man

Eedat2 votes

A moment? You mean multiple months already?

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

just for months on end when people were crying over ivern i noted and commented that NUNU had a higher win rate.... every one ignored it

ya know this is in my comment?

where i stated i said nunu had a higher win rate then IVERN but no one cared

Eedat2 votes

just for months on end when people were crying over ivern i noted and commented that NUNU had a higher win rate

uhhhhhhhh NOPE

http://imgur.com/a/N07Xk

Ivern was the highest winrate jungler for 6 straight patches before he was nerfed.

Try again.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

nunu didnt have as high of a pick or ban rate but his win % was either on par with ivern or just under him

Eedat1 votes

just for months on end when people were crying over ivern i noted and commented that NUNU had a higher win rate

NUNU had a higher win rate

higher win rate

?

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

just won a game cuz we had nunu jungler

good thing we picked him over LEE like the other team or nunu wouldnt of carried

SanKakU1 votes

His grammar is off. He meant that they only look at a champ for a moment and then start asking for nerfs. They don't try to look at the context before jumping onto the hate train.

dunder kill1 votes

When one of the boards more notorious shitposters complains about what the boards do. Made for a good laugh my friend

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

i dont make shit post...

i dont constantly bitch and cry over the game like 95% of all post on the boards

thecowley1 votes

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so is this what the boards do... look at any champ that happens to be strong for a moment and cry that they are OP and needs nerfs ?

just for months on end when people were crying over ivern i noted and commented that NUNU had a higher win rate.... every one ignored it.... their lil circle jerk of hateful tears were on ivern... now that he is out of the way... lets focus on the YETI NOW

well due to the buff and reduced cost of cinderhulk all tank junglers are gonna be stronger ... so better buff yi,lee,kha, rengar right ?

I don't care about his numbers any way, I just think he has a terrible kit. Its boring to me both playing as and against

HR5OdeMImE3 votes

Nunu himself being strong is a result of ADCs being strong right now. He builds supportive items like locket and his E buffs ADCs and his Q and ulti protects them.

WzqdQsZwQA1 votes

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Shadow Hazard1 votes

the issue is that zac is still a monster and ivern is still a pretty high priority ban

thecowley1 votes

Man I don't even like nunus kit. It feels like he is all or nothing. Either over tuned and able to starve enemy jgler through countering or too weak to do his job

Kledy McKledFace1 votes

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Man I don't even like nunus kit. It feels like he is all or nothing. Either over tuned and able to starve enemy jgler through countering or too weak to do his job

It's just a kit that doesn't fit to me.... His passive???? what is this? When you think of a yeti do you think of a super speed running and extra fast attack speed? TO me both his w and passive should be reworked into something more icy...

Like his e could stun for 0.5-1.25 seconds, becoming a skillshots, his w could be a link from his breaths that you slow the enemy or boost your ally (like old karma w that everyone loved), his q same stuff but visually reworked into something similar to an icy chomp (trundle), his r same shit and his passive the weird stuff permanent that he already has for his q bitting, but on last hit only

AlienPrimate3 votes

I'm getting kind of sick of targeted attacks being removed. I agree that his passive and w could use some work, but removing another targeted ability from the game isn't necessary. Something I would like to see on Nunu is the ability to use his Q on champions after he slows them. I don't know what would go well with it so it isn't just another Cho ult, but I'm sure the development team could figure something out.

kda akali1 votes

I agree, Full ap Nunu is probably my favorite build in the game. If he ever gets reworked I just hope they don't remove the targeted E and it's ap scaling.

AlienPrimate1 votes

The one that most bothered me was Shen's Q. Why did they find the need to remove his only chance of getting CS against a tough lane?

Teslyn24 votes

nunu is described as:

a worthless champion whose main goal in the game is to make the enemy jungler as worthless as nunu is.

surprisingly enough nunu is really good at making the enemy jungler pretty much garbage.

Neroli3 votes

lmaooo that description

XShadowAlkX1 votes

Such an annoying overtuned champion.

Shuyin1781 votes

Nunu is already on Riot's radar for nerfs don't worry, they listed champions they were going to be hitting soon.

THE RlVER KlNG1 votes

It's the locket - stoneplate build

Honestly this fucker just needs a nice big VGU Id love one

Mysticman891 votes

Nunu already had a small midpatch nerf if you look at the patch notes.

XShadowAlkX1 votes

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Nunu already had a small midpatch nerf if you look at the patch notes.

You can hardly even feel the nerf in game.

warpenguin5551 votes

He just got a hotfix nerf. I don't know if it did anything and I really don't care if it did.

Dengeden1 votes

What are you talking about? He's not OP because he's not a damage dealer.

(In all seriousness, didn't they nerf Ivern's damage to balance him?)

Shablagoo1 votes

I dont think he is a problem, I literally never see nunu's in my match ever like ever the whole last month I never saw him, this whole season I havent played on match against him in ranked. But idk I dont see him being overly opressive, like ivern with his ult and shield, its mostly just his snowball and counter jg which is oppressive but one you take that away what is nunu he will have like no impact in the game ever.

Procul Impetus1 votes

What did you expect from Riot when even zac is constantly hitting 100%+ ban rate?

Ahristocats1 votes

he got hotfixed

LegendmakerGX1 votes

He isn't even good for diamond and up and this is coming from a player who Nunu main 55% winrate but i played over 50 games before he actually got a buff to make him playable again. Reason why he has a high win rate like Ivern is because he can build full support item making it practically 2 support for one ADC and helping with keeping enemy off the adc with slow. Stone born made him extremely better with the heal by autoing but he does have easy counters that being just get any champion that doesn't rely on auto attack speed and you automatically win. He can slow attack speed but he can't slow champion that rely on ability if you ask me what adc champion counter him that would be Draven Caitlyn Jhin.

People don't realize that building support item while going tank will actually carry because of adc but this depends if adc is not stupid to die in under 5 min and lose lane. Ivern is a better champion then Nunu to give heads up since Ivern can handle ability champion with shield and ult while Nunu really have a slow attack and movement speed.

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

I don't think that Jhin is really a counter against him. Yes, he uses alot of abilities. But attack speed slow hurt him the doubled amount... because it actually decreases his fix attack speed (why btw?) and the decreased AS reduces his AD as well, because of his passive.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but Draven is heavily auto attack reliant, isn't he?

LegendmakerGX1 votes

Uh trust me Jinh even with slow attack speed doesn't feel like he lose any dmg other then 20-30 AD at most and that's late game since Nunu max Q first.

For Draven he throws Q which isn't attack speed reliant since his damage is so high with just Q also when he catch his blades he can spam that speed movement and attack speed.

TeCoolMage1 votes

Reminds me of lulu pre nerfs...

Bisaknosp1 votes

latest buffs were just too much

Sire Hippington1 votes

I think before adressing nunu, we need to adress adc+support-(items). Nunu is one of the few junglers that can easily use all the support items in the world and still be effective while also offering another steroid for the adc. This is one of the major reason for why he's strong. Adc currently are just absurd if supported well, so haveing two adc and two supports is like the best you can get(Echo Fox won convincingly with 3 adc + 2 tank-supports)

However, i still think nunu needs nerfs on his own, mostly on the OOC-MS from his passive. With his W and the consume stacks, he reaches 400+ms early on without boots, he's just everywhere if played well.

invisiblecat11 votes

You don't even need to counter jungle on Nunu to become annoying anymore His kit just has so much utility that he can build support items and just E whoever jumps on the adc for a free win

Cosmic Warper1 votes

he just got hotfixed lmao

AwesomeGuyDj1 votes

Nunu builds hp. Then stone plate, and locket. Step 1. Activate stone plate with 3+ enemies around with willump consume passive stacked. step 2. Ascend super saiyan lvl of hp. step 3. Use locket and laugh as you give your team a near 3k hp shield.

muted team chat1 votes

Nunu isn't doing anything. It is a sign that the jungle ITSELF and the other junglers have been nerfed. Nunu is a champ that doen't scale well with items, so he flourishes when champs that need gold/items really can't get them, which they cannot in this famished jungle environment.

The Yetii Rider1 votes

Nunu's power as a champion is directly tied to the power of the objectives in the game. Rift Herald is an extremely binary objective that gives your team map pressure and gold with a single successful gank, and Nunu can solo it on spawn without taking much damage, leaving him more than ready to crush top lane right after with very little warning.

The main issue is that players are just flat out refusing to adapt to Rift Herald. If you see the enemy team pick Nunu, you should be prepared to collapse on him when he's taking objectives. You should run Teleport to deal with Herald. Honestly, you should do that anyway. The fact that Herald is obviously a powerful tool that if left unattended can give one team an insurmountable lead from very early on practically demands that you run Teleport, especially as a bot laner.

Nerfing Nunu's stats is fine, but until people actually start playing appropriately around Rift Herald then Nunu will continue to be a very powerful champion.

Oh, but his win rate has gone up recently. That's because Cinderhulk got buffed, obviously.

Linna Excel1 votes
  1. op.gg and champion.gg are questionable sites right now. Lolalytics has him at 54.7
  2. Win rate isn't everything.
  3. Pick rate and ban rate are still pretty low for that win rate.
  4. He doesn't have much in the ways of weak match ups or counter picks.

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