Flash abuse needs to be removed

Jefftiffy··2 votes·511 views

Grag should not be able to flash mid E and change the hitbox. Before is okay. After it lands is ok.

Cass shouldn't be able to flash mid ult animation to reposition it.

Lee should also not be able to ult mid ult animation to reposition it.

I don't know if you can after you cast Q on Vi, but I would assume you could given how Gragas works. That shouldn't be allowed (before and during the charge up is ok).

If there's any more that I missed they should be fixed as well. It's more of a clarity and consistency thing. Very hard to play around flashing hitboxes. Using it takes skill, but the fact that it leaves no reaction is the part that takes away the skill and leaves random extra power in a kit for no reason.

Sadly its on every single champ that has been a problem in the past. I'm fine with Lee apart from the flashing to reposition ult (which I have never had happen to me, but I have seen it done and it's pretty brutal). I'm all for skill in kits, but skill because of bug abuse that has become their "kit" is IMO BS. It's not like Riven where it is almost essential in their kits (I don't think she can flash her 3rd Q, if she can it should be fixed, but the animation canceling is almost necessary with how her kit works currently). I mean maybe for Gragas, but only because he received multiple nerfs because of abuse of his E flash.

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Handy Sandy 2 votes

Cass flashing with her ult is removed in the next patch isnt it

yoshi27902 votes

this patch already.

Jefftiffy1 votes

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Cass flashing with her ult is removed in the next patch isnt it

No only the animation is being fixed. They are not removing the ability to do it.

If something has a cast time, you should have to wait that cast time to do other actions other than moving. It makes sense and removes excess utilities from kits and makes them easier to balance. If you are against this you probably are watching the pros use it and abuse it yourself. I personally use it too, but find it rather BS that you can just negate any ability to react to your kit and remove the counter play whenever flash is up. Flash is meant to be mobility, the second it starts super synergizing with kits for reasons besides mobility there is a problem. This abuse has been allowed for way too long. And you can't say that it is fair because Thresh had his ability to abuse his hitbox removed a long time ago.

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