Tahm Kench is the poster child for why the balance team needs to be fired

Yenn·Nov 8, 2015·7 votes·1,043 views

This is a fucking joke. He was a constant ban at Diamond shortly after his release, and everyone at high rating knew his kit was broken. Yet the hordes of Silver players here cried 'Tahm Kench needs buffs!' and the monkeys in charge of balance listened. And now we have this abomination running around.

It's time to get rid of the balance team and replace it with someone who has an actual clue, or at the very least, stop listening to Silver players.

22 Comments

PennsNov 8, 20151 votes

I wonder why he has such a shitty win rate in every single role then lel. I mean its not like hes hard to play at all hes just bad outside of lcs. Also his average dmg dealt as support is lower than Blitz, lower than Naut and even lower than Bard lol.

YennNov 8, 20151 votes

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I wonder why he has such a shitty win rate in every single role then lel. I mean its not like hes hard to play at all hes just bad outside of lcs. Also his average dmg dealt as support is lower than Blitz, lower than Naut and even lower than Bard lol.

It's not about his damage, it's about the fact that he has 2x effective health and Devour being absurdly broken, both for displacement and CC. Once he's on you, you're fucked, period. You can't stop him from devouring you and you can't kill him.

EedatNov 8, 20151 votes

then dont let him walk up to you? Or is he gonna chase you down with all the gap closers he has?

YennNov 8, 20151 votes

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then dont let him walk up to you? Or is he gonna chase you down with all the gap closers he has?

Hold on, let me escape Tahm Kench with Mobility + Dead Man's Plate.

EedatNov 8, 20151 votes

Mobility

exactly what mobility does Tahm have again?

The WhamboozlerNov 8, 20151 votes

His ult.

RalanrNov 8, 20151 votes

That's not mobility on these forums. Mobility is being able to get in and out of combat easy. So a dash gives mobility.

PennsNov 8, 20151 votes

Well but the only thing that got buffed after his release was his Q and ult damage, and thats what you (and everyone else) complained about lol. Idk about you but that sounds pretty balanced to me. Tahm is a utterly useless blob if he gets slowed and kited, he has no aoe CC, effectively no aoe dmg at all, (nearly) no built in mobility, overall bad dmg scaling (his ult is bonus health, which makes it really balanced imo), and some more weaknesses. But, "once hes on you, youre fucked", isnt that the whole point of tanks in the first place?

Asayake 5150glowNov 8, 20151 votes

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Well but the only thing that got buffed after his release was his Q and ult damage, and thats what you (and everyone else) complained about lol. Idk about you but that sounds pretty balanced to me. Tahm is a utterly useless blob if he gets slowed and kited, he has no aoe CC, effectively no aoe dmg at all, (nearly) no built in mobility, overall bad dmg scaling (his ult is bonus health, which makes it really balanced imo), and some more weaknesses. But, "once hes on you, youre fucked", isnt that the whole point of tanks in the first place?

Nope. "Once he's on you, you're fucked" is the motto of Assassins, not tanks.

alasarcherNov 8, 20151 votes

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It's not about his damage, it's about the fact that he has 2x effective health and Devour being absurdly broken, both for displacement and CC. Once he's on you, you're fucked, period. You can't stop him from devouring you and you can't kill him.

If he is so broken and op, how come he has shitty win rate across all divisions, all maps, all modes. He has shitty win rate in normals. Only 7 champions have worse win rate than him. And only champion that can technically support and have less win rate is Nidalee.

Asayake 5150glowNov 8, 20152 votes

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I wonder why he has such a shitty win rate in every single role then lel. I mean its not like hes hard to play at all hes just bad outside of lcs. Also his average dmg dealt as support is lower than Blitz, lower than Naut and even lower than Bard lol.

SRSLY? He has high bases, high scaling, damage based on his health, and damage based on your health. Hell, his percentages are even high! His E literally chunks you for 20% of your MAX HEALTH. At least Mundo's Q is on your current health!

PennsNov 8, 20151 votes

Tahms base damages are pretty low (he only has 2 damaging spells to begin with) and since he "only" scales with AP, his scaling is pretty awful. His HP scaling is bonus HP, so its pretty bad as well (you need ~4000 HP for it to do 150 bonus dmg, thats not bad, but nowhere near broken). And his E doesnt do any damage kappa

Asayake 5150glowNov 8, 20151 votes

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Tahms base damages are pretty low (he only has 2 damaging spells to begin with) and since he "only" scales with AP, his scaling is pretty awful. His HP scaling is bonus HP, so its pretty bad as well (you need ~4000 HP for it to do 150 bonus dmg, thats not bad, but nowhere near broken). And his E doesnt do any damage kappa

Actually, remember that his skills also do that damage. So his Q would be doing 260+150 damage with 4000 bonus HP. Pretty good for a tank, no?

PennsNov 8, 20151 votes

Exactly. Pretty good.

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thats not bad, but nowhere near broken

Asayake 5150glowNov 8, 20151 votes

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Exactly. Pretty good.

Are tanks supposed to do pretty good damage? I thought that was reserved for bruisers with at least a single offensive item?

PennsNov 8, 20151 votes

As you can see in the thread I posted, every single tank thats not made to just be a meat shield does more damage than Tahm, so.. yeah. Tanks always did a lot of damage do squishies even when building full tank, thats how League works.

Asayake 5150glowNov 8, 20151 votes

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As you can see in the thread I posted, every single tank thats not made to just be a meat shield does more damage than Tahm, so.. yeah. Tanks always did a lot of damage do squishies even when building full tank, thats how League works.

Except Tahm's E makes him a better meatshield than half of every other tank. So, he's either a meat shield or a damage tank. Which is it? It can't be both (which it is now)!

PennsNov 8, 20151 votes

Tahm is a meat shield that happens to have acceptable damage if he gets onto you. The same goes for Mundo just that Mundo is way harder to kite and probably even has more dmg.

Asayake 5150glowNov 8, 20151 votes

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Tahm is a meat shield that happens to have acceptable damage if he gets onto you. The same goes for Mundo just that Mundo is way harder to kite and probably even has more dmg.

At least Mundo deals damage based off of current health. And his ult only heals for ~50% of his life if I remember it right (it costs health to use) (without spirit)