AP itemization needs to be looked into sooner rather than later

Moonfall Saber··1 votes·289 views

It was stated back in season 6 that itemization needed to be looked at. Last season riot agreed that they would look into AP itemization. I would like to throw in something that really bugs me. Morellinomicom. This item does litteraly everything while having a really high amount of AP and is a staple item for most mages because of how overloaded it is. We need to divide this item because this item alone (without realizing it) hurts bruisers more than we notice. It gives a free grevious wounds that the mage player probably didn't even care that they got and most mages do ape damage and just put it on everyone. While grevious wounds isn't toxic and neither is healing I think that you should have to put an actual effort item buying it as well as having a cheap version. This is just one of the main problems with ap itemization is that there are no real staples to any item.

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FirewaterDM3 votes

tbh I'm just hoping the update gets rid of grievous wounds on Morello's and GIVES MAGES an actual grievous wounds item instead. the 35% threshmark is generally useless especially when those champs who require wounds are ahead- least executioners has some effect immediately.

But there's no good way to balance ever since athenes was made into a support/shield item - like if you can't shield people it is kinda garbage.

Moonfall Saber1 votes

Morellinomicom should be Like a 10% mana cost reduction passive or something

Dead flag blues1 votes

Every mage buys it not because it's overloaded, but because it's the only AP item that gives a true mana regen (item 3174 is mostly built by enchanters) and has some nice stats. It's also the only one that actually requires something to apply grevious wound, aka below 30% hp, and doesn't have any component that applies it. Tanks haveitem 3076 , AD champions have item 3123

Dorans Pants1 votes

morello really needs competition as starting item for mages. Problem most mages face is that you need ap to stay relevant, but compared to most other classes u also need mana to make use of your ap in the first place, so unless you have a passive to get mana back or really low mana costs u will have to buy a mana item first. to top it all of u also need cdr along the way which puts you in this weird triangle of stats u can´t get at once.

we have items that give.

(mana/health) // ap // but no cdr (mana/health) // cdr // but no ap cdr // ap // but no mana

well except two items item 3100(which is only effetive on certain champs) and item 3165 (which outclasses evey other mage item)...mmh i wonder it´s so popular.

One major problem with mages is that u can´t make use of one stat alone because of how they all rely on each other. Where an adc can rush bf (only ad) or a tank can rush armor/health without problems a mage always needs a ball of stats and tries to get them as soon as possible, so it´s no surprise that they all go for morellos. another problem is that there is a high variety of different functionalities among mages, which is not supported by their itemization. compared to adc´s which only show slight deviations from one another and can more or less all make use of the same items, mages can often only us a fraction of the items available so to create a more diverse itemisation we would simply need more items to support more diversity within each separate niche.

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

There will be AP item updates in 8.4, according to Meddler. You can check the gameplay thoughts from today for more details.

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