This just happened, as someone who did pretty well in this game this feels like shit, I mean no one could do anything vs enemy ADC, and the best thing is people don't want to surrender, this game has become so garbage it's unreal, coming from a season 2 veteran
6/2/2 Top Laner
1/1/7 Jungler
1/1/2 Mid
"Good game, everyone is doing pretty good. We're probably going to win"
look at my match history. past 3 games have been losses because bot is either bad or worthless to put icing on the cake, support is my duo and is even warning me that the adc is worthless. please for the love of god can we NOT HAVE BOTLANE be this important to the game entirely?
and how would you go about doing that? maybe not having the entire game be decided around the ADC?
It definitely feels like shit when some of your team gets completely blown out of the water, but honestly, every role can play a part in the success of their bot lane.
If your bot lane is getting smashed, odds are they are pushed in pretty hard, which means:
One, two, or all three of you can come crashing into the enemy bot lane and stop the bleeding.
I cant count the number of times I've been in a game where i've been tower dove by 3 or 4 enemies on 2 or 3 occasions, hobble out of lane completely crippled, then have my teammates ask, "WTF Bot lane"
I get that lanes will get smashed, but if the enemy team is being proactive about ganging up on your bot lane, then you either need to take equivalent advantages on the opposite side of the map, or you need to position to protect your bot.
If you dont do either of those things in response to the enemy ganging up on your duo lane, then I really cant sympathize with your complaint.
If your bot lane is losing get the the hell out of bot lane and let them bully another lane with their ranged advantage and another champion babysitting them. You may cry that you have to baby sit them but then again you also want to win the game Or more likely surrender because you dont know the win conditions.
The higher offenses and fewer defenses of Runes Reforged scewed the field of potential damage output and damage reduction, enabling snowballs. This led to towers melting, so next season, they added tower plating to slow the early game snowball. Turret plating has more gold for the winning lanes, so they snowball harder than before around mid game. Increased damage and increased gold causes this. Runes Reforged did this. (we need like 27 armor and 27 magic resist available together on mini runes for the game to feel similar to the past, not including the increased damage of the actual runes)
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but if a lane is consistently losing, you might just have a losing lane.
As someone who plays bot, I would love a comeback mechanic of some kind... Sometimes losing lane is just you got four man tower dived because you're not in a good match up. Like you're playing Tristana/Janna and are gonna be something amazing late game but right now, in laning phase, you're facing a Draven/Leona and there's only so much you can do except try not to die. And then it never fails that they shove the wave under turret and you're getting dove and have lost your turret.
I am not a professional. This is just my opinion.
Hello,
first what came to my mind was, how the hell could Morgana and Caitlyn lose against Thresh and Draven. Like Morgana should hard counter Thresh's hooks with her E. And Caitlyn should have so much oportunities to punish Draven, cause her AA range. Plus she should buy Executioner's Calling as well as Draven did. Also Morgana's Q bind and Caitlyn's traps on W combo is pretty good. I know, there are ways to beat it, but still. You get my point.
I do not know how the game went, but if Draven got somehow first 2 or 3 kills "for free" It is done tbh. Draven is one of the ADCs who can destroy everything after that. Experienced by myself. As I can see you played it so well on top. But Darius is not the champ who you want to face fed Draven with. And "without" your ADC and even SUPP It is almost impossible imo.
As ADC myself I can tell this happens sometimes. And It is hard for me to get back. But I am trying to improve myself to do not fight unless I am sure It is save. Save plays, more farming etc. Sometimes SUPP screws me up with so aggresive plays. And I can tell you one thing - one bad fight, 2 or 3 kills for enemy ADC ends up with lost lane most of the time. Double that "power after 2 - 3 kills" for Draven or Vayne. Unless enemy ADC screws up so hard, give you some bounty and you can actually come back to point, where you can do at least something as ADC. Otherwise you are so useless.
I am not saying this is because ADC was bad. It can be also because bad decisions. There are lots of options how to screw up bot lane that hard. I have no advices for you tbh. Loses are and always will be here and It won't be always your fault. We have to deal with it dude.
Thanks for reading.
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Honestly fuck supports now, their damage increase over time has made bot lane snowball way too hard... Every supp in the game does rediculous dmg right now. Watching my thresh damn near 1v1 an ADC he hooked while I just last hit him for kill was the wtf is this role moment. Watching enchanters beat the shit out of a BF sword draven. Like even jannas fucking W max damage needed nerfed..... support dmg is an issue when someone like janna is getting damage nerfs.....what??? An ahead meta support can zone both the enemy AD and the enemy support by themselves. Why is this not being looked at? Anyone who blames support for them not climbing any more needs to be permabanned because this role is actually insane for the lack of micro-mechanics.
Supports used to be the king of "heres this champion I brought to you, please end him" now it's more like "fuck you marskman, Ima 1v1 this scrub, try to last hit if you can loser".
