Why isn't ANYONE aware or even care about Ahris state?

Popstar Ahri·May 13, 2016·3 votes·667 views

Ever since the DFG removal she has had a consistent 53% winrate, and the top 10 mid lane champs for a while now.

so exactly why did she need her ms buff on her Q?

And lets not forget she had a 15%+ pickrate for a while now, so having a 53% winrate along with a 15% winrate is reasonably something wrong with her having it to be at a consistant high winrate like that

we all know that the Q ms buffs removed her early laning phase pre 6 weakness, and she is considered one of the most annoying and hard champs to gank along with leblanc and fizz.

Reason why not much of the ahri mains are all doing good is because majority of them build ludens echo's because it isnt good or needed on her anymore like it used to, death cap and other items imo are way better on her

and knowing and playing some Ahri I have had in the past, it is true that she is still broken till this day

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13 Comments

GenghisEmoMay 13, 20163 votes

She may be hard to gank, but she is quite easy to one shot, and to 1v1 out of lane.

But maybe b/c i'm an Ahri main XD.

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Popstar AhriMay 13, 20162 votes

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She may be hard to gank, but she is quite easy to one shot, and to 1v1 out of lane.

But maybe b/c i'm an Ahri main XD.

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well looks to me you have a 71% winrate in bronze 3 with Ahri, so I don't see how she isn't freelo

GenghisEmoMay 13, 20162 votes

B/c she was one of 2 champs i actually learned to play well on years, years ago XD.

Shit, even Ashe before her rework i managed to have an average KD of 5 to 1 for a long ass time even when i lost just b/c i knew damn well how to use her.

Jinx, same thing pretty much.

I was able to beat OP S4 Katarina with DFG and Zhonya's by learning.

And when my foes use Ahri, they pretty much regret it, unless i get allies that lack knowledge or dont know the term "counter-play".

Michael SykesMay 13, 20161 votes

maybe he is just good with her (although she does not have the highest skillcap). In low elo many midlaners are not very good, so he can beat the most with his main champ

DrDiagaMay 13, 20162 votes

Ahri complaints are generally stupid.

She has a good winrate because not dying is horribly underrated.

Her kDa is nothing amazing, damage do e is average. Her sustain isn't actually very strong. She needs to poke a champ down a fair amount first to kill them. An ahri can't 100-0 anyone in one rotation(unless fed but that's everyone)

She is super squishy and if caught will get blown up fast. Half of her damage requires her to be in range of literally everything the enemy has. She wastes ult quite often to run away, not engage.

Yes she is very mobile, but that hardly justifies her as broken. There are far more champs who are actual arguable issues then a champ who simply is slippery.

AlwaysByMySideMay 13, 20161 votes

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Ahri complaints are generally stupid.

She has a good winrate because not dying is horribly underrated.

Her kDa is nothing amazing, damage do e is average. Her sustain isn't actually very strong. She needs to poke a champ down a fair amount first to kill them. An ahri can't 100-0 anyone in one rotation(unless fed but that's everyone)

She is super squishy and if caught will get blown up fast. Half of her damage requires her to be in range of literally everything the enemy has. She wastes ult quite often to run away, not engage.

Yes she is very mobile, but that hardly justifies her as broken. There are far more champs who are actual arguable issues then a champ who simply is slippery.

If Ahri being hard to kill is what is consistently making her too strong then that needs to be nerfed or something else does.

Why a champion is overpowered doesn't mean they shouldn't be nerfed for being overpowered.

FailedEXEMay 13, 20162 votes

I am really getting sick of these complaints and excuses about Winrate and Popularity.

They mean absolutely NOTHING! As long as she has a ban rate of .5%, she is irrelevant. Nobody bans Ahri for a reason and the only ones that do either do not know how to play against her or just because she wins games.

Winning games doesn't mean shit if the champion in question is actually getting carried and that is how I spectated a lot of other Ahri players. It's painful to watch most of them play. They feed their assess off but still walk away with a victory screen.

Currently, Amumu and Volibear are very near in 10% pick rate with a winrate that is 53% and up. What does that mean? Jack shit. Neither one of these two pose that much of a problem either.

I swear to god, nothing pisses me off more then when champions are judged by their winrate and popularity and not ban rate.

Why is Ahri's banrate only .5% when these current following mid lane champions are...

Leblanc - 10% Azir - 26% Zed - 74%

Explain that too me. If Ahri is THAT much of a problem, she should have a much higher ban rate then she does now.

AlwaysByMySideMay 13, 20161 votes

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I am really getting sick of these complaints and excuses about Winrate and Popularity.

They mean absolutely NOTHING! As long as she has a ban rate of .5%, she is irrelevant. Nobody bans Ahri for a reason and the only ones that do either do not know how to play against her or just because she wins games.

Winning games doesn't mean shit if the champion in question is actually getting carried and that is how I spectated a lot of other Ahri players. It's painful to watch most of them play. They feed their assess off but still walk away with a victory screen.

Currently, Amumu and Volibear are very near in 10% pick rate with a winrate that is 53% and up. What does that mean? Jack shit. Neither one of these two pose that much of a problem either.

I swear to god, nothing pisses me off more then when champions are judged by their winrate and popularity and not ban rate.

Why is Ahri's banrate only .5% when these current following mid lane champions are...

Leblanc - 10% Azir - 26% Zed - 74%

Explain that too me. If Ahri is THAT much of a problem, she should have a much higher ban rate then she does now.

So you're saying that statistical data that literally only tells us how people (which is to say, dumbasses) feel about certain champions should be more highly regarded than data that shows us who is objectively winning the most games?

What a foolish idea.

Charmed by AhriMay 13, 20161 votes

No what's hilarious is that it's only same the people who complain about Ahri. Who aren't in higher elo mind you. Judging from their match history they often play some of the most toxic(in terms of their opressive kit and gameplay) champions in league who actually struggle against Ahri if the player is decent like(Kayle, fizz ,khazix, akali, irelia, riven, yi). You never see a talon player, malzahar player complain. Simply because they often do well vs her. And those champions all have the capabilities to destroy Ahri in lane and win the game. But she is not the only factor deciding a 5v5 game. Its usually the players who complain about Ahri play champions who honestly aren't even considered skill matchups for her. Her kit outkites/outplays theirs, when some of those champions have very little counterplay to begin with. These same players fail to use logic or reason. And constantly refuse discuss any other champion besides the 9 nine tailed fox.

Furthermore, Statistical data is gathered from platinum elo+. So all data accumulated is gathered from good players. What these people fail to realize is there are champions with the same win rate and maybe a fluctuating pick rate difference of 1-2%. And these same people only look at is Ahri and midlane. They never discuss top, ADC, Jungle or supports high win rate/pick rate champions. As those champions stastistical data rarely fluctuates. Even throughout seasons. The same champions sit at the top. Ahri is one of them, the only difference between those high win rate champions and Ahri is, the simple fact that her patch notes include a Far greater range of changes/nerfs to her gameplay and kit opposed to any of the other higher winrate champions in any lane.

So at the end of the day, the same people who complain about Ahri are honestly blind to see beyond her and start discussing the other champions amongst league. Which is why no one pays attention to these QQ threads. The only reason I do respond because the players who QQ the most play basically low win rate champions, assassins above all and are salty from getting obliterated by champion who can't even have raw damage. Instead she was given kiting power for Q. Either these players can get good or get good.

BellowsMay 13, 20161 votes

Ahri has everything. Good All in, good all out. Sustain. High ap scaling with added true damage. Shes fast. She has a charm with a decent missle speed taht ANY competent ahri player can land.

She has too much and needs the Elise/Yasuo/irelia treatment.

Akali is SO HOTMay 13, 20161 votes

tfw your first sentence is the exact same thing as the title of my thread

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/GD/YyEEaksY-ever-since-dfg-removal-ahri-has-had-a-53-winrate-and-has-always-been-in-the-top-10-mid-pickrates

Mobility PowerMay 13, 20161 votes

they just need to nerf her W i think best way to do that would be

landing E on the target increased your w's on hit dmg by x or something.
then lower W dmg a lot and make her w's power come from landing e. -easier to balance around mostly because its not - just press r then w on top of someone for 97% ap dmg plus 2 base dmgs and TLD +(probably) ludins. thats just 1 r too.