New Guinsoo Rageblade Change

Meep Man·Sep 29, 2015·5 votes·23,579 views

Passive:Basic attacks (on attack) and spell casts grant +4% Attack Speed and +4 Ability Power for 8 seconds (stacks infinitely).

Can you see it? You'll know when you do.

Who will use it?

25 Comments

JJI744Sep 29, 20153 votes

Yeah, no, not going to happen. Right off the top of my head, Jax, Cassio, Kayle, and Eve would all be brokenly strong with that item.

Hell, you would see Karthus buy Rageblade, sit on fountain casting Q, then press R at 1k AP lvl 7.

So no, IMO, absolutely zero chance that goes live i nthat state.

AbyssphereSep 29, 20154 votes

{quoted}

Yeah, no, not going to happen. Right off the top of my head, Jax, Cassio, Kayle, and Eve would all be brokenly strong with that item.

Hell, you would see Karthus buy Rageblade, sit on fountain casting Q, then press R at 1k AP lvl 7.

So no, IMO, absolutely zero chance that goes live i nthat state.

Yeah if Karthus spends roughly 4 minutes sitting in his fountain pressing Q I think he deserves the free penta from his R. Calm the hell down.

NullDragonSep 30, 20151 votes

Okay except he can.... keep casting Q, and then R.

And penta every time his ult is up. Fountain karthus is now meta.

RiotRiot AxesSep 29, 20156 votes

That change was part of a set of experimental changes - we accidentally sent only a small part of it to PBE. It's certainly not going live in that state - we're not even testing the version that the PBE picked up (we had more changes in the version we tested to prevent the kind of case you're talking about, and even that needed a lot more work).

F03Sep 29, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Axes,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nHmoKLHt,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2015-09-29T23:36:12.084+0000)

That change was part of a set of experimental changes - we accidentally sent only a small part of it to PBE. It's certainly not going live in that state - we're not even testing the version that the PBE picked up (we had more changes in the version we tested to prevent the kind of case you're talking about, and even that needed a lot more work).

good thing you guys picked up on that, that was bad news waiting to happen.

sp441Sep 30, 20152 votes

Is it going to be a part of the changes to Marksman itemization come Pre-Season 6?

GreedwalkerOct 8, 20151 votes

I can see a quite easy change to this - remove "on cast" from this passive, make only "on autoattack". Maybe some other kind of compensation for spells, but not sure if it's needed. P.S. (Edited) I think it can be changed on: "Damaging an opponent with a spell (count once per spell)", something like this.

JJI744Oct 8, 20151 votes

Well, that was from a while ago now. A Red confirmed the rageblade changes on the PBE were an "oopsie" moment. (See above)

Personally, I don't think we will ever see an infinitely stacking mechanic, because well, if there is any potential to abuse something, the playerbase will abuse it to no end. Lord knows Rengar players have proven this about 5 times by themselves.

Angelofchaos16xSep 29, 20152 votes

Eve, Jax and Kayle

DessemSep 30, 20152 votes

Karthus

Sitting at Fountain. Spamming my Qs.

Pressing R.

What do you mean, ADCs don't need Zhonya?

BârdSep 29, 20151 votes

Evelynn TwistedFate Teemo KogMaw Udyr maybe

A LiberalSep 30, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=The True Bard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nHmoKLHt,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-09-29T22:23:46.967+0000)

maybe

omg eve yaaas

Deep Terror NamiSep 29, 20151 votes

Tristana. Just go push towers, Ult anybody that thinks they can stop you.

Might want to wait for the next PBE update to see where that goes though lol

WarlockLawSep 29, 20151 votes

Nobody bothers to mention Nidalee who can just pounce around the map at a cost of zero mana then throw a 1000 ap spear st somebody then go back to pouncing

Maximum MordeSep 29, 20151 votes

{quoted}

Nobody bothers to mention Nidalee who can just pounce around the map at a cost of zero mana then throw a 1000 ap spear st somebody then go back to pouncing

^ This. Or Rumble , or Kennen , or basically ANY manaless champion(Mordekaiser, Vladimir etc).

deJasper36Nov 6, 20151 votes

Bring back ad nidalee pls

Lord AzırSep 29, 20151 votes

Azir can keep it infinitely stacked without falling off with the short cd of w.

SasogwaSep 29, 20151 votes

{quoted}

can keep it infinitely stacked without falling off with the short cd of w.

Actually pretty much every champion can stack it infinitely if they have a bunch of cdr and manaregen. This must be a bug or there's been other changes, like you would need to deal damage to someone or sthg? (cause I've tested it in a custom game, right now the duration is reset everytime you launch any random spell)

I'd like Riot to be more clear about that change, cause as it looks like a random something like nida with guinsoo's will come out of the jungle with 5k ap and 2.5 as and oneshoot you.

Hell, you can make it work with everyone. Get Riven, guinsoo's + nashor's tooth, spam spells until you have 10k AP and then come oneshoot everyone with your autoattacks.