Despite healing with her tentacles, Illaoi has the 5th highest base hp/5 in the game

TotalJerk·Sep 28, 2016·1 votes·547 views

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Health_regeneration

I know a lot of people have been complaining about playing against her. If at some point Rito sees fit to nerf her I figure that this would be a good starting point. She gets a strong amount of sustain from actually landing tentacles, but if the Illaoi player is trash and can't land them, her base hp regen being so high means she still has decent staying power in lane. Normally Rito gives champions bad base regen if they have strong sustain abilities, so it seems weird to me that hers is so high.

I'd also like to point out that at level 18 Ekko, an assassin with shields and a healing ultimate, for some unfathomable reason is tied for fourth highest.

11 Comments

AstôlfoSep 28, 20163 votes

People's complaints about playing against her, are for the majority, irrelevant.

Also, by that point, what about Darius? His Q heals him as well, and he's 3rd highest base HP/5, and 2nd highest at level 18.

Both Illaoi and Darius' method of healing are dodgeable. Except unlike Illaoi, Darius can actually drag you in to where he wants you and hit you with his W and then Q. Illaoi needs to hope her opponents get hit by a clearly broadcasted skillshot (Q) or are dumb enough to start dueling her in the middle of a place surrounded by tentacles (W or R).

Or what about Nasus? 7th highest HP/5 regen, and then he has his passive as well which grants enormous sustain. And Nasus just goes full tank, unlike the other two.

Or Sion? Gains health permanently for killing units, second highest HP/5, usually just goes full tank.

(I am not saying any of the above are OP or not OP otherwise, just pointing out the flaws in your argument)

TotalJerkSep 28, 20161 votes

Darius gets bullied more by ranged champions, but if he ever at some point becomes a likely candidate for nerfs I'd support nerfing his base regen to average levels, too.

AstôlfoSep 28, 20161 votes

You're saying Darius gets bullied more by ranged champions as compared to Illaoi?

Darius can actually move around because his 'juggernaut threat zone' is himself. Illaoi's 'threat zone' is locked to wherever her tentacles are spawned, and her ultimate isn't always optimal.

Ranged champions can destroy Illaoi's tentacles from ranged, essentially locking her only sustain to either Doran's Blade/other items or her Q, which is measly in terms of sustain in early.

Also Executioner's Calling is a bullshit item, but nonetheless, a cheap and easy way to ruin her sustain.

TotalJerkSep 28, 20161 votes

Illaoi's ranged abilities outrange Darius' and she has a mini dash on a 4 second cooldown. Admittedly Darius fucks anything up within ADC auto range, but Illaoi has slightly better options for dealing with it while Darius often just can't.

AstôlfoSep 28, 20161 votes

Illaoi's E takes a long time to actually do anything meaningful with in early because you will most likely not kill the Spirit. Illaoi's tentacle slaps are her only realistic damage. The only way to do that is either Q or the command from W. W's damage itself is garbage-tier in early.

Darius' Q and his passive means he wins the trade most of the time if someone is stupid enough to engage in melee combat with him in early.

TotalJerkSep 29, 20161 votes

I can deal with her, though. It's just the complaining combined with her presence in pro play means there is a chance she'll get changed at some point. I'm suggesting where exactly they should hit her if a nerf happens.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 28, 20162 votes

and yet a champ like Lulu with item 3165 counters Illaoi in lane

TotalJerkSep 28, 20161 votes

Laning phase is typically wrapping up by the time Morellonomicon is finished on most champions, but I have to agree with the sentiment that it's annoying that a core item on most mages has such a situationally hard countering passive just tacked on.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 28, 20161 votes

and i have won as Nunu top vs Illaoi i healed more then she did lol

GULAG 4 USep 28, 20161 votes

So what? The healing is pretty hard to get off unlike Aatrox or lee sin.

EcchiOtakuTMSep 28, 20161 votes

People need to learn to dodge just like gohan did when he finnally hit SSJ 2 as a teen.

Also if you'd ask your adc to buy executioner's calling (800g) when the lane phase is over, illaoi is useless.

It's your own fault if you can't deal with her, she's one of the most apparent and easiest champs to deal with in the game. just buy tier 1 boots and you've got the laning phase.