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The jarvan issue.

ggigotfed··1 votes·410 views

Saw jarvan was getting a nerf. First thoughts.

Okay fighting a scary j4 was fun at least he'll be toned down again won't have to worry about a season 3 repeat. Oh...2% from his passive....oh...riot's retarded.

So, riot, you are aware his passive is an issue yes I see that. But like...remove lethality... Since you fistfucked everyones armor into the dirt, lethality is essentially bonus ad or true damage, if you go j4 and don't buy a duskblade, you get reported for trolling.

If you go j4 and do buy a duskblade, you get reported for cheating. Just fucking remove duskblade. It's almost as bad as season 1 ap yi. You know he's coming for you, and there is not a damn thing you can do to stop him. E Q instant 1 shot. But that wouldnt be an issue khazix does the same thing, only. I CAN FUCKING KILL KHAZIX! But j4 is a juggernaut that assassinates, because he gets a shield against anything and nobody has any fucking armor anymore. And even if they do his passive is a fucking bork. Oh but we nerfed 2%. oh shit watch out that stopped him. Now he only overkills people by 1500 instead of 1560

11 Comments

Zed genius1 votes

Removing duskblade will mean reworking every single ad assassin in the game to make them at least playable without it

Existential Bard2 votes

I would actually be okay with this. It would prevent abuse cases where champs that aren't meant to 1-shot no longer have the duskblade to do so.

Zed genius1 votes

but riot has shown us how bad they are at doing class updates, hence they stopped doing them

ggigotfed1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zed genius,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nAV1crw8,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-10T20:41:56.179+0000)

but riot has shown us how bad they are at doing class updates, hence they stopped doing them

I don't care for all the assassins or juggernauts, I care for the one item that turns anyone into a new assassin. It creates new fresh hells for everyone to suffer. The teemo full lethality who sits in the middle of the jg or lane somewhere and instant kills you because you can't see him

Existential Bard1 votes

I'm saying that they can do small adjustments (like they did with Zyra and Morgana this patch to make them viable in other roles. They could adjust assassins to have the dusk blade passive only after exiting a stealth (camo) or a dash. Of course I would say that this new adjusted passive effect should have a longer cooldown than the current dusk blade.

ggigotfed1 votes

Or they could put a cooldown on duskblade, so you dont make people pop like a fucking balloon anytime you get out of vision

Existential Bard1 votes

But then you could still put it on tankier champs to one shot people with very little threat to your own health.

ggigotfed1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zed genius,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nAV1crw8,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-12-10T20:07:40.593+0000)

Removing duskblade will mean reworking every single ad assassin in the game to make them at least playable without it

There's only a handful of ad assassins, and only rengar and talon would be the ones who lose out on it. But let's be realistic, rengar is already useless compared to khazix.

z63XnLCMwX1 votes

Just stay out of his flag range. If he has to double dash to get you, you've already reduced his potential damage.

Barkley1 votes

Uh... duskblade isn't the problem, honestly.

I don't even build it on him, and I still 1-shot kids.

item 1412 item 3111 item 3071 item 3742 item 3156 item 3026

People die. Often.

Pokemonred2001 votes

Dom goes item 1413 item 3748 item 3071 into tank items on J4 and does just fine. And honestly, I think as an item, item 3147 is fine, and does what it's meant to.

Lethality builds tend to make champions easier to erase, and JarvanIV is no exception; he does a lot of damage, yes, but because he'll have less defensive he has noticable falloff late.

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