Guys It's the offensive/defensive items that make Graves OP, Graves himself isn't actually that OP.

Laceration·9/23/2018, 12:47:17 AM·10 votes·3,682 views

There's just too much damage reduction for him to buy while buying damage at the same time and that's what pisses me off about him. +400hp + 62% dmg reduction + 20 armor. That's without counting the 12% reduced dmg from autos from tabis or the 12% reduction he can get from a knights vow.

Riot should really remove one of these items, Preferably Red smite since red smite has been broken since release and if you don't agree with me Scarra has talked about how OP it is for years. Only reason people don't complain about it is because there's always something more OP to complain which makes it look less broken than it actually is

14 Comments

GodlyBane9/23/2018, 6:04:55 AM3 votes

If graves uses these items better then anyone else, he stands out, therefore he is busted.

Try again.

Gank Bot Lane9/23/2018, 3:07:24 AM3 votes

[sg-lux-2] Graves [sg-lux-2]

The thing that breaks graves absolutely is his W, the Smoke. It's beyond broken & leaves near to no counter-play in any matchup. He's also incredibly strong with the current item's which allow him to snowball out of control.

All of this aside, he has absolutely no weak point in the game. Really don't know why riot's balance team is jerking off to him so much that they refuse to nerf him even slightly.

Rock MD9/23/2018, 7:12:40 AM3 votes

Jungle as a whole has been busted for a long time and people rarely say anything about it. The fact that we've gotten this far with people crying that the jungle is ruined, when they're running the game more than they ever have in their entire existence, blows my mind.

ForFoxSakes9/23/2018, 5:24:35 AM3 votes

Graves is one of the few junglers who can build any AD item. As long as there's a super strong AD item with a crazy passive, Graves will be strong

MrFawknSunshine9/23/2018, 1:12:43 AM2 votes

graves has aoe burst, smoke screen where you cant see where he is and take damage with out being able to fight back plus free tank stats in passive.

but lets say its the items

Kloak9/23/2018, 6:57:53 AM1 votes

He has God like clear speed and barely takes any damage from it. His autos nuke your HP but you can't do the same because of all the damage reduction he builds and not to mention true grit.

Ragnaveil9/23/2018, 5:17:04 AM1 votes

Red smite has either been feast or famine when it came out. I cant remember a time where it wasn't either of those two (either my memory is shit, or i'm right). It honestly should be worked on because duelists want it, and everyone else is forced to run the slow one if they cant reap the benefits of the red one. Trackers was pretty good in deterring so many red smite runs, but with it gone we've basically come back full circle with smite item effects.

TwinkiePro9/23/2018, 7:22:18 AM1 votes

It doesn't help his passive literally lets him get up to 200% AD ratio and shit on melees.

Noor Sakata9/23/2018, 12:52:51 PM1 votes

Mate , it's graves himself , try to use those items on another champion , will they be broken as much as him ? no everything in hit kit is just too strong , Mobility , aoe burst , aoe blind , aoe ultimate that can be used as mobility too