Possible ways to Fix Zed

Laceration·11/30/2018, 2:43:57 PM·147 votes·18,825 views

Hey guys, Zed is really in the gutters right now sitting at a 45% winrate t'll 25-30 mins and could really use a buff especially in high elo

Ideas for Zed buffs

Make him better at poking or better at all-in. If we can't have that then make him a lategame scaling assassin

keep in mind you don't have to do all of these buffs only some, i've organized these ideas in sections for the different paths you can take to fix zed ** All-In Buffs:

  • E shreds 10% total pen per hit caps 30 or 25%
  • deathmark applies armor debuff on target 10/20/30

Poke Buffs:

  • W cd lowered to 18 sec
  • Q buff
  • Q does +50% more damage to minions or Q does full 80% damage passthough on champions but 50% on minions

Lategame Buffs:

  • passive reworked to utility passive like gain movespeed while unseen based on %of bonus AD with buffs to his E and Q to make up for the lost dmg
  • Reaping passive stacks with a cap. 7 AD per kill caps at 70, targets who are higher level reap more, 1lvl difference = 14 ad reap. 2 lvl diff = 21
  • snapback delay lowered with each point ( 0.5 at 6 / 0.25 at 11/ 0 at 16 )
  • getting a kill with R lowers his cooldowns by 15sec

Interesting buffs:

  • When zed swaps with a shadow he gains additional auto attack range and damage on hit
  • W Shadow's E now counts towards W reset
  • When zed ults a target he lands in the direction of his mouse, not behind his enemies
  • E marks a champion, Q procs on champ to deal bonus damage and reduce w cd

Problem with Zed is his All-In is too weak to warrant how shitty his poke is. Riot once nerfed Zed because they said his poek and all-in were too strong which created a catch 22 where its either lose lane by getting poked out of lane or stay long enough for zed to just kill you. Currently we have the exactly opposite where we can't poke enemies out of lane and we can't all in either so we just get fucked!

Even faker says all zed can do in lane is just push waves!!!

276 Comments

Warlord Rhinark11/30/2018, 2:48:58 PM61 votes

Is this post being upvote botted?

It's only been up for 5 minutes and it's already at 10 upvotes.

Daddy Ants11/30/2018, 4:05:15 PM24 votes

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Hey guys, Zed is really in the gutters right now sitting at a 45% winrate t'll 25-30 mins and could really use a buff especially in high elo

Lategame Buffs:

  • getting a kill with R lowers his cooldowns by 15sec

No.

Then he's imposing on Katarina's identity as the reset Assassin.

Påul11/30/2018, 2:44:49 PM23 votes

I agree, finally some one who speaks up against the brutal treatment Zed has been receiving from riot, His gameplay doesn't fit his theme well, if some of this changes would be applied his kit and theme would be more appealing to both new and veteran players

Auld11/30/2018, 5:06:23 PM22 votes

The amount of people trying to tell the current #1 (and only Challenger) Zed OTP how to play his own champion is real. This is tragic.

iDarkWind11/30/2018, 5:05:14 PM22 votes

Good luck trying to argue that Zed is weak on boards. They will tell you that he's broken and needs nerfs and to buff mages and tanks instead.

the weeaboo11/30/2018, 3:49:37 PM21 votes

buff... zed's... poke and all in? The champ thats already fantastic at poke and all in?

Cant tell if this is a joke.

IdveYsUfSK11/30/2018, 3:36:12 PM20 votes

There is not much difference between a bad zed player and a skilled one as he is way too easy to play with the amount of tools he have. Remove his last hit assistance passive. Replace with a new passive that increasingly shreds armor with successive skill hits. This will fix the problems in with zed in low elo and high elo. Its way too easy to reach the state where he has too much waveclear that allows him to free roam to make plays.

l MrD l11/30/2018, 3:10:26 PM19 votes

hi i can tell youre a very good player what thing im concerned with is down here in low elo (probably plat to bronze) when gets played hes dominating a lot ... can i ask why in high elo hes conisdered weak but in low hes the opposite?

when i face him i have trouble dealing with his poke and his W E Q electrocute trade .... i wouldnt mind him being scaling champion though but as it stands im struggling to understand why hes considered weak ? i know he is but i dont get why? so can you possible shed some light :)

iamthegoatofwar11/30/2018, 3:01:13 PM17 votes

alright 45% win rate...so does akali need buffs? She sits at 43-44.

EGirlMidMain11/30/2018, 3:08:25 PM16 votes

Guys can you wake up ? the 48-49% winrate you're talking about is from bronze to diamond.

Once you get to higher elo(like d2) the enemy midlaner will just rush tabi's or armseekers, making Zed fucking useless.

In higher elo they also know how to abuse Zed. (He is a melee champion, 22 seconds of vulnerability after using weq to poke)

EDIT: Also if you want him to make less oppresive in lower elos and better in higher elos, rework his passive to something that needs skill in order to be applied, this way the skill rewards players that can maximalise the use of the passive(More likely to happen in higher elo.)and will not reward Zed players that can't use it(more likely to happen in lower elo.)

ModJikker11/30/2018, 7:33:57 PM16 votes

Hey guys,

Let's keep things civil in here and avoid any insults, rank shaming, or other inflammatory comments. Discussion is fine so long as it remains factual and respectful of other people's opinions.

I've done some editing to clean up the thread.

[poppy-wink]

ExpStealer11/30/2018, 3:41:37 PM15 votes
Atmosphere11/30/2018, 4:30:58 PM10 votes

You're... You're joking, right? Zed is a high skill cap champion, he shouldn't have a high win rate until you learn him. He doesn't need any buffs right now, he's already plenty strong if you know how to use the champion.

King Lego11/30/2018, 5:09:06 PM7 votes

While my comment got deleted for 2nd pretense sarcasm, I'll have to go serious mode.

Zed doesn't need nerfs nor buffs. It's the items that are the problems. I remember back then before the existence of lethality, I didn't die from a Zed missing 3/4 of his abilities, it was the exact opposite when his build use to be item 3071 item 3153 etc.

I use to enjoy playing a Zed even as a mage main. But with the lethality items, he's unfun due to how unbalanced he became and even less to no skills.

Lonely Shadow12/1/2018, 4:56:39 PM6 votes

To everyone crying about how the win rate "isn't bad" well Zeds win rate is inflated by 1 tricks

MegaSpaceJX11/30/2018, 2:46:06 PM3 votes

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