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Nerf pyke's ult gold generation already.

JuiceBoxP··82 votes·18,639 views

##The reason i believe pyke is busted right now is because of the fact he generates TOO MUCH gold for takedowns with ult. I've already created a thread about it earlier, https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/8rfIss6n-pyke-gets-far-too-much-gold-from-his-ultimate-now

but riot is not doing anything about it so it's time to cry some more.

I am a pyke main, so, I don't have problem dealing with pyke, never had. I don't think his kit is problematic, never did. The problem is, even if you shit on him in lane, he just gets off some ults and comes back into the game pretty effortlessly. He is extremely snowbally and because he gets this absurd amount of gold he is ALWAYS ahead of everyone and got a lot more items than everyone. I've had games as pyke finishing full build at minute 26(with little to no farm) - that is just busted.

##I've just finished this game: https://imgur.com/4D5R6X2

Yes, we won, Yes, we shat on this pyke on bot lane, and yet, look at how much gold he got, 44 farm btw.

#24K GOLD. LIKE WTF? He was full build at minute 30, give or take. Their fed yasuo with 260 farm had 2k less gold. This champ is busted solely due to the fact he just generates TOO. MUCH. GOLD. He gets an early lead and he becomes too oppressive to deal with when he got 3k more gold than everyone at minute 20.

#Bottom line, nerf or revert that ult because that is just nonsense.

Also, here are some vids of me shitting on this pyke just for your enjoyment, because i know how much you hate pyke xD the sidestep tho. https://youtu.be/NNcNeUdfAoU https://youtu.be/TFH5jFL_kjg

97 Comments

DODGEORLOSE30 votes

Why the fuck does Pyke have more gold than Yasuo? Yasuo has the most cs in game and a few more kills. Riot. You fucking r%%%%%s. inb4 snowflake mods remove this comment

LatetotheRace2 votes

I genuinely have grown to hate the forums mods on here picking and choosing how they want to enforce rules.

DeusVult5 votes

Becuase Pyke gets sooooooo much gold from his ult now. They did this to compensate for him being nerfed in a solo lane.

Except that the last solo lane pyke I faced ended the game with 50 farm at 35 minutes, while having the most gold in the game. Despite them only getting one turret, and 0 neutral objectives.

Great job Rito

LPelican 5 votes

agree +1

1 Inch and Proud4 votes

oh look another complainer :/ look at his farm? you realize they nerfed his farm against minions twice or three times so its kinda hard to do anything. his ult is his ONLY source of income out of his support item which only gives 2k gold by the end of the game. you realize how hard it is to help clear waves at the end of the game now? you literally cant. if supers are on your nexus its gg now. but yeah nerf pyke.

and the reason you shit on him is he built trash. tank pyke? he cant build health so that armor/mr accounts for literally fuck all. aftershock? no shit he lost.

HungryAngry2SPP10 votes

Do you realise how hard it to kill waves on a support?

Well you don't.

Supps only source of gold is from starting items/ks

1 Inch and Proud1 votes

{quoted}

Do you realise how hard it to kill waves on a support?

Well you don't.

Supps only source of gold is from starting items/ks

karma, lux, morg, blitz, zyra. all meta super clear champs. :()

JuiceBoxP7 votes

lux, karma, blitz and zyra no longer meta, btw

1 Inch and Proud1 votes

{quoted}

lux, karma, blitz and zyra no longer meta, btw

https://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=random+fat+guy32 this is him. he started playing pyke a single day ago. no priers. so yeah he doesnt know how pyke works. he either gets carried or feeds in his games. theres no in between. and you saying they are no longer meta is false. and for a PSA the elo is silver so this whole post is void right? because all my posts are void cause im silver

JuiceBoxP1 votes

[{quoted}](name=1 Inch and Proud,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=n6E7bW05,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-10T14:12:14.691+0000)

and you saying they are no longer meta is false.

Your source?

HungryAngry2SPP1 votes

Lux and karma with 12 and 8% pick rate btw

JuiceBoxP5 votes

lux 48% winrate support btw karma 49% winrate support btw

meta as fuck

HungryAngry2SPP2 votes
  1. What site are you using, champion.gg says:

Lux Support 52.98% wr 12.75% pick 2.15% ban

Karma Support 49.79% 7.90% 1.59%

  1. Calm your tits edgelord, no need to be such a douche.
JuiceBoxP7 votes

champion.gg is an outdated site and should never be used. u.gg is good My tits are very calm, btw

DeracadaVenom1 votes

{quoted}

lux, karma, blitz and zyra no longer meta, btw

Wait blitzcrank isnt a support anymore?? I did not get this news.

JuiceBoxP3 votes

Never said he wasn't a support, just said he isn't meta

shipo1318 votes

you realize Talon (23/16 + 237farm) has only 21k gold?

Pyke has fastest health regen on game.

JuiceBoxP3 votes

Yeah, you're probably right, i shat on him not because i literally outplayed his ass over and over and over, but because he built tank items at late game to be able to survive being locked down and providing utility for his team

1 Inch and Proud2 votes

{quoted}

Yeah, you're probably right, i shat on him not because i literally outplayed his ass over and over and over, but because he built tank items at late game to be able to survive being locked down and providing utility for his team

LMFAO what utility if he fucking lost lmfao. surviving? he died 14 times. late game? he went aftershock and the tank support item.?????????????? his first complete was thornmail? this guy looks like its his first time on pyke lmfao. assassin pyke wouldve stomped your team. from your little videos where you "outplay and suck yourself off" he's clearly trash. why flash ult a nami when you couldve gotten the ashe? why continue to go after nami when ashe is an easier target.. your heal isnt that strong. trust me. you just got a bad pyke lmfao

JuiceBoxP4 votes

w/e your claims are as valid as you want to believe they are, but that is not the point. the outplays in the video are a bonus, that is not the topic of the thread.

the topic of the thread is that pyke gets too much gold from his ult, and that's it. i would've probably played it differently but it doesn't matter.

bottom line, he got destroyed this game and he still got BY FAR the most gold in the game.

1 Inch and Proud2 votes

{quoted}

w/e your claims are as valid as you want to believe they are, but that is not the point. the outplays in the video are a bonus, that is not the topic of the thread.

the topic of the thread is that pyke gets too much gold from his ult, and that's it. i would've probably played it differently but it doesn't matter.

bottom line, he got destroyed this game and he still got BY FAR the most gold in the game.

and youre not understand is the reason he got destroyed was his use of said gold. he was literally braindead and youre boasting about it lmfao. get off your high horse. pyke is fine the way he is.

JuiceBoxP6 votes

the discussion is not about whether he got destroyed and why, the discussion is about the amount of gold he got. You think 24k gold for a support that lost both the game and the lane is okay in any way?

Count Calculus5 votes

Okay, but, if he was “literally brain dead” and still got 2K more gold than the most fed member on his team, isn’t that kind of a problem in and of itself? His ult being his only source of income doesn’t matter if said income is as massive as it is for what little effort he has to put in to get it.

The Highest Noon3 votes

"already"

They literally just added that.

Also, that Pyke has 16 kills. If you let a support get that many kills in one game, the problem isn't how much gold they're making lol

JuiceBoxP7 votes

they added that almost a month ago, btw.

The Highest Noon1 votes

Yeah, 9.14 right? The patch before last. That's not "already" at all. That's so recent that it's too early for people to be whining about it without even trying to actually play against it.

JuiceBoxP3 votes

As i said, a month ago. quite enough time.

The Highest Noon2 votes

A month isn't enough time, tbh. Especially when the usual anti-Pyke nonsense works just fine. Even better since HE WAS NERFED TO HELL.

Sillae2 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=n6E7bW05,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-10T13:49:45.707+0000)

"already"

They literally just added that.

Also, that Pyke has 16 kills. If you let a support get that many kills in one game, the problem isn't how much gold they're making lol

He.. has an AOE repeat execute..

The Highest Noon1 votes

Which doesn't do much damage if it doesn't kill you. In a time where almost every good champ has a heal, a shield, lifesteal or high mobility..?

Not a problem.

Sillae2 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=n6E7bW05,comment-id=000200020000,timestamp=2019-08-11T12:44:19.440+0000)

Which doesn't do much damage if it doesn't kill you. In a time where almost every good champ has a heal, a shield, lifesteal or high mobility..?

Not a problem.

His execute ignores shields.

And fighting high mobility cancer with more high mobility cancer isnt a solution.

The Highest Noon1 votes

Wait, it does? Since when? Last I saw, shields block executes. Hell, I just played a game against Urgot who could never execute someone because his target was always being shielded.

Sillae2 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=n6E7bW05,comment-id=00020002000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-11T14:04:20.634+0000)

Wait, it does? Since when? Last I saw, shields block executes. Hell, I just played a game against Urgot who could never execute someone because his target was always being healed.

I mean, literally look up Pyke ult ignores shields.

Also a heal isn't a shield for your Urgot anecdote.

DrDubb1 votes

When someone doesn't know how to have a discussion on a thread, or just completely misses the point. This post has no signs of an intelligent life form behind it!

The Highest Noon1 votes

Oh, wow~. Out of all the Supports, Pyke's bottom ten. I WONDER WHY?

DrDubb1 votes

You're so clueless lol, and still missing the point. no arguing with... fools, as Yasuo would say. You're arguing the specific game he played, instead of discussing the champion, which is what this thread is about. I won't reply again, because it will be useless. I leave this last comment just hoping I can explain to you how to better be a part of an intellectual conversation on these forums.

If someone posts a thread about a glitch that causes the game to end once a support gets 15 kills, your only reply would be "don't let the support get 15 kills" instead of acknowledging the problem.

Before you tell me that's a far fetched scenario that'll never happen - it's called an analogy - analogies are great for pointing out logical fallacies in discussion! You're critiquing the specific game played, instead of discussing the problem.

Tell him why he's wrong, tell him why he's right. IDGAF, just contribute to the discussion at hand.

Arcflare3 votes

What's interesting here is the fact that everyone is just looking at the pykes gold. What no one else seems to take into consideration when defending pyke is the fact that every ult kill also gives his assist a lot of gold as well. If all 16 of those kills were also ult kills then you need to factor that extra 4800 to his teammates as well. He alone gave a full item and a half to his team from his ult while giving himself 4+ items. (14400 gold). That is insane for a support that can execute any squishy at half health when at 4 items or so.

If they want to keep his gold generation like it is, they need nerf his ult. They seriously need to reduce the reset timers after a kill. Theres absolutely no reason for a reset to last as long as it does for an execute that is EXTREMELY GENEROUS with its execute threshold. The reset should be lowered to 5 seconds so he doesnt have enough time to just run down a squishy at full health, full combo them, and then still have enough time to kill them with his ult reset after killing everyone else.

They also need to lower his ult scaling for an execute. Theres no reason for an ult that gives so much benefit to also be extremely generous with how easy it is to execute someone. put it to a flat 20% target health instead of whatever the scaling per lethality of it is now because its absurd seeing a him instakill people at half health as a support.

Nea1043 votes

Project Pyke skin is still in your client's main page. Wait a few days at least :D

Legsdaddy3 votes

Pyke is a tricky one since his ultimate is what enables him to be a support and an assassin at the same time, but the gold generation mechanic is messed and in some match ups it becomes really obvious how unhealthy it is.

If riot ever changes their stance on removing champions from the game I think pyke will be one of the first ones on the chopping block.

JuiceBoxP4 votes

the champ itself is balance-able. i like the champ, but as of right now his ult is too strong.

ArtumisPrime3 votes

If Pyke gets the kill with his ultimate, then he should get assist gold for it, and the other cut should be full kill gold, unless it's a solo kill.

YambrinZ2 votes

Yall got jebaited. Dont forget to check the elo of people making balance change claims.

JuiceBoxP4 votes

Elo makes no difference in discussion especially when a lot of people including myself don't even play ranked at all. Everyone has an opinion and they should be able to speak their mind without people disrespecting them with prejudice.

Especially when i bring hard facts. Take your condescending ass back to the cave you call your room where you came from

Crystalysk1 votes

135 kills in one game o.o

JuiceBoxP1 votes

It was a very bloody game xD

Crystalysk1 votes

Well that Pyke was bad btw, good job

JuiceBoxP9 votes

Yeah he was bad and look how much gold he got

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