What do you guys think of this build for the new Graves?

Trebbi·10/30/2015, 12:26:01 PM·2 votes·1,481 views

Base AD is higher and Graves need to be close to his target to deal more damage hence why the steraks. He scales well with AD and to continously get shotgun shells he needs CDR to get his E dash up(wich lets him reload a shell) Merc thread is because he is up close and can get cc`d more easily. Lord dominik is for killing tanks and getting armor pen.

having deaths dance adds to his tankyness because of the bleed mechanic and he can heal himself with Q and R with it.

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From what I seen attack speed doesnt help much because of the shotgun reload mechanic, but the new could be a good item on him because of 12% damage reduction.

15 Comments

Bootleg Gay10/30/2015, 12:26:49 PM1 votes

Effectively, you're turning him into a ranged bruiser. I do these kinds of things too.

Mimy10/30/2015, 12:42:49 PM1 votes

I wonder with these types of new items we might see marksman's toplane..

FlashGuard910/30/2015, 12:49:03 PM1 votes

Will item 3071 stack its passive with each projectile from his shotgun? if that so it would be very strong on him.

darkchan510/30/2015, 2:37:30 PM1 votes

i think that build seem pretty optimal on him(not completely sold on sterak's though, definitely good just not sure if there is a better item. maybe something like bloodthirster if you aren't worried about getting bursted?) and then you just replace lord dominik's regards with mortal reminder if you need grievous wounds

Meep Man10/30/2015, 2:51:56 PM1 votes

I would do a build thats more burst oriented, such as: item 3078 item 3031 item 3087 And then add Rapid Firecannon and Lord Dominik's Regards. So much burst.

Thats only really if you are ahead though. Otherwise, you might want to change Rapid Firecannon into Black Cleaver and Statikk into a Sterak's.

kJs10/30/2015, 4:21:14 PM1 votes

I was thinking. item 3046 item 3071 item 3153 item 3072 item 3031 and either item 3047 or item 3111 , the former the most likely because you're facing another ADC for much of the lane phase. Black Cleaver for the durability and Armor Pen stacks, good for Graves's damage in long sustained fights which he is designed for. Phantom Dancer because it will reduce incoming damage and remove unit collision, he needs to get in and out through a lot of minions I am thinking. Blade of the Ruined King will let him kite, chase and sustain in fights and each bullet will apply the lifesteal. Bloodthirster to counter-act burst which smart opponents will probably do to avoid long drawn out fights with Graves. Infinity Edge for just damage and more bullets for on-hit effects like BC and Lifesteal (when he crits he gets extra bullets per round).

On-hit effects apply once per target per basic attack, so it's a little bit like having Runnan's Hurricane on Graves at all times. You can even swap out the Black Cleaver for a item 3078 and you'd still have enough movement speed and you can apply an AoE Sheen proc and a bit more crit for extra bullets per autoattack.

Of course it's all well and good to talk about the final build but the real challenge is the build path.

EDIT: I am pretty sure Attack Speed reduces the reload time by a bit. Correct me if I'm wrong on that.