The problem herein with trading stance's stance

> [{quoted}](name=Trading Stance,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=svsAKkFw,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2017-10-17T01:07:41.351+0000) > > Personally, I think live Twitch indexes a bit too hard into teamfight power and not enough into his assassination/map control playstyle, though arguably both are quite frustrating to play against. > > To me though, Twitch's winrate is not extremely alarming as a hyperscaling carry with stealth which biases towards solo queue and he has pretty much sat at this winrate for almost the last 2 years. > > Having said that, there are things about this game state that are different than previous years (eg. Ardent is better on him and probably more frustrating than most other champs). > > As a result, we have opted not to nerf him for the last while. > > I'm personally not sure how much of this is Twitch is the best ADC vs "an ADC is the best ADC and here's the problem with them" - a lot of ADC's have been this at various points in time while being balanced for pro, eg. Ashe does too much damage while having too much utility, Caitlyn does too much damage while being too safe, Draven is too snowbally, Sivir engage is unbeatable, etc. > > So my earlier thoughts about a hyperscaling stealth ADC being top winrate is not surprising to me, because this is a good combination of traits to succeed in solo queue. (Though it's possible he is allowed to be the best, but not by this much).

"Having said that, there are things about this game state that are different than previous years (eg. Ardent is better on him and probably more frustrating than most other champs).

As a result, we have opted not to nerf him for the last while."

this is an admittal of either ardent being way too strong with how it interacts with twitch or twitch being way too strong himself given the meta, in either case, action is warranted. This is no different than with stoneplate and chogath and how you changed stoneplate.

The ball is in your court.