Yea, that's right. One move does more than Alistar's whole combo. I don't understand why some supports are allowed to be more rewarding than others. Alistar lands his entire combo on you, and it literally does nothing because the base damage is so low. Blitzcrank only needs to land ONE skillshot and he wins, because the base damage is so stupidly high. Please explain to me how this is fair.
Painted Celt2 votesErr... They do different things. How can you say that one does more per se? If you are standing next to your adc and an assassin pops out of nowhere nearby, which is going to be more helpful? Have Alistar headbutt + pulverize to reliably lockdown and peel that assassin off your adc... Or have Blitzcrank grab and deliver that glass cannon Master Yi straight into the adc's face...
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Err... They do different things. How can you say that one does more per se? If you are standing next to your adc and an assassin pops out of nowhere nearby, which is going to be more helpful? Have Alistar headbutt + pulverize to reliably lockdown and peel that assassin off your adc... Or have Blitzcrank grab and deliver that glass cannon Master Yi straight into the adc's face...
Can't tell if troll or stupid. Blitzcrank also has a knockup and a silence. Even if he pulls someone into the adc (which means you have HORRIBLE positioning), he can chain CC them much longer than Alistar can, and he has higher base damage on his abilities. So yea, I'd much rather have someone pulled into my adc, so I can wail on them while they're being chain CC'd by Blitzcrank.
DaspinnyX21 votesCan't tell if troll or stupid. Blitzcrank also has a knockup and a silence. Even if he pulls someone into the adc (which means you have HORRIBLE positioning), he can chain CC them much longer than Alistar can, and he has higher base damage on his abilities. So yea, I'd much rather have someone pulled into my adc, so I can wail on them while they're being chain CC'd by Blitzcrank.
Ali is also a MUCH more reliable tank than blitz. Ali can heal himself and team mates and while his ult is up he takes 75% less damage. Blitz is supposed to be more of a damage doer than Ali. Its completely different rolls.
Painted Celt1 votesSo after that short knockup on Powerfist, Blitzcrank silences Master Yi with his ultimate, however Master Yi right clicks on the adc and proceeds to kill them in less than 2 seconds anyways... Not to mention while also lifestealing far more than any possible difference in damage between Alistar and Blitzcrank Qs in a tank support build...
Come on, man. You are comparing apples and oranges. You also seem to have overlooked the facts that Alistar's pulverize is AOE, costs less mana, and has a lower cooldown...
EndlessSorcerer1 votesBecause the only measurement of abilities (especially utility spells) is their damage.
Legal Wrights1 votesHere's a thought. Lets say you have a super duper fed Tornado Man on your team. 
Which is gonna be more useful? Hooking one dude out of their team which is unreliable at best, or headbutting in and pulverizing into a five man knockup for the Yasuo ult, and then becoming an unkillable tank?