@Riot: A secondary cooldown

Wolfeur·Aug 13, 2015·4 votes·365 views

I was reading a discussion about 's ability to be untargetable every 4.8 seconds late game and I may have gotten an idea how to deal with the problem: Secondary cooldown.

When playful/trickster goes on cooldown, add a substancially longer (let's say 20 sec) cooldown to the spell (visually, picture it like a spell with charges). When the primary cooldown is off, you can use the spell; however, if the spell still has his secondary cooldown on, Fizz won't be untargetable.

With this concept, you can keep Fizz's kit identical with his signature as a highly mobile champion while tuning down one of his most annoying strength. Making him use playful/trickster will at least remove his invincibility for quite a long time, which would feel more rewarding.

Also, the concept can be used for many other things, including new champion kits.

4 Comments

Yosuke ApperuAug 13, 20153 votes

Imo, no champ should be able to be immune or untargetable or run/chase forever.

WolfeurAug 13, 20153 votes

Being immune is one thing, being so on a 4.8s cooldown basis in another.

Yosuke ApperuAug 13, 20152 votes

Oh i'm talking in general. Fizz Vladimir Kayle Poppy Tryndamere . I'm not adding yi only because in higher elos his q requires much better timing. (though atm i hate yi has he's so broken with sated XD)

LeeerzeichenAug 13, 20152 votes

You forgot Aatrox Bard Ekko Elise Fiora Kalista Lissandra Maokai Nocturne Pantheon Shaco Sion TahmKench Zed Zilean item 3157 item 3026 .

And fizz is still balanced with this cd, because he completely relays on this ability. First of all, look at the mana costs, 90 - 130 Mana per use is really high, especially because he is forced to max it. Its also his defense ability (every melee Ap Assassin has one, Diana has a shield, ekko has a shield and a heal and a dodge, kassa has %dmg red. and a shield), his waveclear, his escape, his main cc and his main damage source. So it's basically impossible to have it up everytime you want to use it. You want to quickly clear a wave? Can't Engage, Disengage or dodge something for the next few seconds. You used it offensive because you wanted to kill you lane opponent? No escape or defense for the next few seconds. You used it to avoid heavy damage but weren't able to hit you enemy? Well, you are next to an enemy without damage or a escape. His e would be op on this cooldown, if this ability wouldn't be fizz' entire kit.