Tristana has had her self-peel for 9 years

Wolfeur·2/13/2018, 9:59:26 AM·92 votes·3,824 views

Guys, you're a bit late to complain about it.

103 Comments

greekvandaL2/13/2018, 10:18:28 AM67 votes

Tristana also was a 4.5-5 item hypercarry back in the day not a two item hypercarry

Escheton2/13/2018, 10:12:52 AM33 votes

And for most of those 9 that meant that she could be forced out of the fight for a bit. Damage was lower so ambient resets were less prevalent. Cdr was not ubiquitous to the point that they slapped it on an AD crit item that gave mana sustain to adc. And snowballing wasn't so bad that she dominated the game off getting a double kill from a jungler ganking 2 minutes in when everyone is still lvl 1 except the junglers.

BobaFlautist2/13/2018, 5:57:57 PM15 votes

Yeah, and it's been a huge pain in the ass every time she's been meta in those 9 years.

Kanzaki Ranko2/13/2018, 6:15:44 PM12 votes

Ok? She's been broken in the past, remember season 4's AD item rework? she was literally autowin back then, even before her rework. Not even getting into the disgusting abomination that was AP trist with dfg either

Jinx Hunter2/13/2018, 5:48:21 PM8 votes

and its been OP and stupid the entire time.

DragonShea2/13/2018, 10:23:52 PM5 votes

Yes there have been times when Triss was useless. People seems to love bitching about her being OP like she was OP the moment she was released.

The Deckowner2/13/2018, 11:13:43 PM5 votes

But she didn't kill you with 2 autos for 9 years.

Samflash32/14/2018, 4:41:22 PM4 votes

Kassadin had his silence for 4 years.

Boy, did he regret that.

LUXANNA HOSHIDO2/14/2018, 3:10:26 AM3 votes

THIS

everybody complaining about her kit when she has been the same for a WHILE.. the only reason she seems "broken" is because her counters (jhin, draven, etc) aren't as good rn

DeusVult2/14/2018, 2:40:16 AM3 votes

The biggest thing with ADCs and self peel was in the past ADCs had to either choose damage or survivability in both their kits and their builds. Trist didnt have the W jump reset on a full proc'd E. ADCs didnt have access to nearly as many defensive items. GA had no AD, QSS had no upgrade, PD didnt have damage mitigation, there was no Deaths Dance, Bloodthirster had no overshield, etc. If you wanted defensive items, you had to sacrifice some damage to get them.

And the other big change was supports. Supports, in both kits and builds, have risen in power immensely in the past few seasons. S2 supports only built GP10 items and wards. Now supports can have access to huge shields, heals, cc removal, damage buffs, damage mitigation, etc. The entire support role has been fleshed out and grown in power, so they can now actually protect their carries.

Which means that the adcs who used to be fine even though they had self peel are now over the top in terms of strength because they have self peel AND huge defensive options from 2 champs.

Troll for Trump2/14/2018, 6:31:30 AM3 votes

Only major complaint about Trist is the way her W interacts with abilities like Blitz Q where it flat-out cancels it.

SEKAI2/14/2018, 11:13:14 AM3 votes

She was complained about every time she was meta during those 9 years too, so?

Need Gold 4 Tent2/14/2018, 4:12:17 PM3 votes

She never had a second way to reset

Kai Guy2/15/2018, 9:11:53 AM2 votes

Back in my day Sonny AP trist could 1 shot champions.

ISLAMICWARRIOR992/14/2018, 4:27:17 AM2 votes

Yea but apparently boards members have found a way to build negative hp so she is a "two item hypercarry". Lmao trist and pretty much every other crit ad is fine people just mad they cant miss all their spells and live vs her

Automated Riven2/14/2018, 3:37:30 PM2 votes

Years ago it was less mobility. (you had to kill or assist to get the reset. Now there is the new reset mechanic) also it was harder to kill someone to get the reset. She did less damage to squishies until late game. She scaled slower. Mages were more threatening to her. Supports were less strong at pure shielding. There are tons of reasons why it's more problematic now.