I'm expecting complaining threads about Sion being OP

Wolfeur·Mar 22, 2016·119 votes·6,849 views

...in approximately two weeks.

99 Comments

RalanrMar 22, 201614 votes

God I hope not. I'd rather Sion be seen as the underdog on the forums. In truth he's in a really good place right now, any buffs could send him too far and any nerfs would be incredibly painful.

As a Sion main, I may be biased. But I don't want Riot to nerf Sion just because people don't take his incredibly healthy counterplay into account.

YumaS2AstralMar 22, 20162 votes

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God I hope not. I'd rather Sion be seen as the underdog on the forums. In truth he's in a really good place right now, any buffs could send him too far and any nerfs would be incredibly painful.

As a Sion main, I may be biased. But I don't want Riot to nerf Sion just because people don't take his incredibly healthy counterplay into account.

On my opinion the main problem with Sion is just that he is meant to be a late game champion, yet he only scales into late by having more tankyness. Yet he is an incredibly strong lane bully, which on my opinion is not what he is meant to be.

While Sion is okay from a balance point of view, he still has that aforementioned problem.

RalanrMar 22, 201611 votes

Late game tankiness scaling doesn't feel very impactful sometimes when you consider the late game damage scalings.

Masala ChaiMar 22, 20164 votes

Fiora Poppy Elise Shen KogMaw Vayne Garen Kindred , thanks to these champions, Sion will remain an eetle underdog.

charcharmunroMar 22, 20161 votes

3 of those are early-game champions, Fiora is dumb, Vayne is a tank-killer, Garen is Garen, Kog'Maw is also a tank-melter and Shen is not really an issue for Sion.

Masala ChaiMar 22, 20162 votes

Kindred's early game !?!?!?! :O

My Waifu VanillaMar 22, 20162 votes

Yes, most of her nerfs were put in place because you could clear 1 side of your jungle, hit 3, and then 1v1 literally anyone on the map. Their other buff was almost guaranteed yours since no one could fight you over it.

ToolooTMar 22, 20168 votes

he's a strong pick but he relies heavily on the carries to do well. Go full tank Sion become almost invincible but still lose cuz your mid lane/ bot lane fed horribly and are behind. Started playing him last week and I enjoy his kit and being tanky as hell but i've lost 50% of my games because in lower elos you could have a beast game as a tank and engage/peel perfectly, carries will still find a way to get caught randomly and die.

Basically if they do nerf him in the near future (when he becomes flavor of the month), he will be a weak pick again.

Blue Moon WolfMar 22, 20168 votes

I'm excited about him turning into an actual train during his ult

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YRXgFu3RpYk/hqdefault.jpg

TedBearSurvivalMar 22, 20167 votes

My name is Barry Allen when I was twelve my mother was killed by a yellow guy

KrugLyfeMar 22, 20166 votes

The other day I won a 4v5 it was funny because their lulu shyv and tf were saying sion was braindead and takes no skill I had these guys so mad they were typing whie we killed them so we ended up winning them even when we were down our healer

charcharmunroMar 22, 20163 votes

His winrate is pretty damn high, but his playrate is quite low and he has a fairly high skillcap so it's likely just Sion mains putting that up so high. He's still really quite strong but I dunno if he's OP. We'll see when he sees more play with the new skin.

Cryo00Mar 22, 20161 votes

I'm curious as I have never played Sion, what about him makes him a high skill cap champion ? Don't mean anything in a negative context.

charcharmunroMar 22, 20167 votes

Hm... Well, only his ultimate is a truly difficult ability to LAND, but the rest of his abilities are all tricky to use properly due to how telegraphed everything but his E is, especially if you're against somebody who knows what they're doing. It's kinda like Illaoi, but instead of fuckloads of damage, you just dish out heavy CC.

Def Not A KaijuMar 23, 20161 votes

the rest of his abilities are all tricky to use properly due to how telegraphed everything but his E is, especially if you're against somebody who knows what they're doing

new skin fixes that. EVERYTHING has a visual cue.

charcharmunroMar 23, 20163 votes

If anything, that makes it easier to play AGAINST Sion.

Def Not A KaijuMar 31, 20161 votes

-------joke-----

.....you...

charcharmunroMar 31, 20161 votes

Well, a joke has to actually contain something funny before it's considered a joke.

Def Not A KaijuApr 5, 20161 votes

you have a hard time figuring out what sarcasm is, dont you?

to play devils advocate, sarcasm doesnt come across well via text.

If anything, that makes it easier to play AGAINST Sion.

but yes, that was the whole point of my comment. EVERYTHING has a visual cue, it fixes the problem by making it non existent, but in a bad way.

having to explain it kills it.

thank you for making me murder my own joke.

Cerebral AbsenceMar 22, 20162 votes

Why?

WolfeurMar 22, 201652 votes

New skin -> will be played -> will stomp some guys -> that will go complain on the boards

Chaotic ReksMar 22, 2016110 votes

"The cycle of salt and rage continues, we will laugh, they will cry" Nasus

nami tfMar 22, 201619 votes

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"The cycle of salt and rage continues, we will laugh, they will cry"

Renekton "As I laugh, all will cry!"

CatastropMar 22, 20163 votes

Oh, I like this.

StealthWardenMar 23, 20162 votes

almost got me caught reading forums instead of working! I lol'd legit IRL :P

Vellich0rMar 22, 20162 votes

To be fair, he has been top ten winrate in Korean gold for almost a month.

MilfHuntUnitM1TMar 22, 20162 votes

Gold? EleGiggle

10TicklerMar 22, 201610 votes

Dude, Korean Bronze is NA Plat+

MilfHuntUnitM1TMar 22, 201616 votes

No. Korean Bronze would be equal to NA Bronze and EU bronze. Quit believing the flamers on twitch about these low elo "exchange rates".

If we were talking about Korean Plat, that's when it would start turning steep against other regions. If you don't believe me, then go make a 30 account on Korea and come back to me. Or you can just stay here and be naive downvoting me.

10TicklerMar 22, 20165 votes

Don't even touch vote buttons bruh. Chill

Photos of GhostsMar 22, 20161 votes

Unfortunately you can't make accounts in Korea without a Korean IP. Do proxies do the job, maybe?

ÑapoleoniMar 22, 20161 votes

You can buy one on the deep web lol.

DeathBot666Mar 22, 20163 votes

Because we all know everyone hits up those illegal dark web sights for lvl 30 korean LoL accounts.

ÑapoleoniMar 23, 20161 votes

Well I mean someone could technically just buy a Korean code for a LoL account, but they're probably used to do illegal activity on the internet outside the country.

Edit: You didn't read this from me :D

Just to clarify I'm not doing illegal activity in Korea.

GhostOfShrimpmasMar 23, 20161 votes

But if you were, would you really admit to it here anyway?

PeachsPropertyMar 23, 20162 votes

there is a facebook post where a guy is wanted for a crime, the wanted guy comments on the mug shot being bad, and the police tell him to coem to the station and they can change it for him.

some people do lack common sense ;)

Biff ManlyMar 23, 20164 votes

No no no, you're thinking of it wrong. Korean Bronze is EU Challenger, EU Bronze is NA Challenger, and NA Bronze is Korean Challenger.

It's the CIIIIIIRCLE OF TIIIIIILLLTTT~

MhihnjMar 23, 20161 votes

With you at it's center~~~~

TotalJerkMar 23, 20161 votes

Unlikely. When Sion was legitimately OP no one complained. Now that he's kinda bad if anything I imagine a huge influx of new players demanding a buff.

Deadly MittensMar 23, 20161 votes

Yep, people are much more ok with Sion being to strong because unlike ~~Fiora~~ some other champs, he's fun to play against

TotalJerkMar 23, 20161 votes

Are we both talking about the period when his E had a low cooldown and costed 35 mana at all ranks?

ShonjlMar 23, 20161 votes

At least you can fight a Sion. You can do something to him, vs Darius being given free stats and going pure tank. Vs Fiora being able to literally Ult you at max hp and nearly kill you since vitals do 1/3 your hp.

I liked when I seen Sion top, you could beat him and he could sure as hell kick your ass.

TotalJerkMar 23, 20161 votes

Back then he didn't even have to lane against his bad matchups, he could just hang back and shout them out of lane.

Def Not A KaijuMar 23, 20161 votes

he can still do that.

just take meditation keystone.

KarKzzMar 23, 20161 votes

Winning with , or against sion fell great. Because in "normal" cases, it's an "active" fight, both players and outplay each other, and feel great about it.

It changes a lot, because "Mobility one shot you", "lololol rightclick rightclick u ded" or "I got more free stats that you !" are boring.

StealthWardenMar 23, 20162 votes

ive been playing sion support...its exceptionally strong

RaxicorMar 23, 20162 votes

Who can get mad when you get run-over by a orange train? It's like being killed by monarch kog. You die laughing.

DroogzyMar 22, 20162 votes

Honestly my complaint with him is that he's suppose to be a late game hypertank.

His win rate by game minute says the complete opposite however.

RyzeReworkMar 22, 20163 votes

That's because sions early game damnage is amazing but later in the game you have to set up for his ultimate its not like a insta cast like Malphite it takes time to get going so if u can win before u need to group then its better then fucking up ur ult in a teamfight and throwing a game