What's up with those Karma changes on PBE?

doubleguac·5/13/2015, 8:18:49 PM·1 votes·581 views

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Multiple nerfs to her damage output/solo laning, and buffs to her utility/duo laning. Seems like they are trying to get her out of mid and send her bot.

I agree that Karma isn't the greatest support. Or, rather: even in the support role, she functions more as a mage/carry, like Annie or Zyra support.

But she's really fun right now, as a support OR a mage. And I don't understand what problem they are trying to fix. Is solo lane Karma OP? Does she lack counterplay? I don't think so.

I agree Karma is a little annoying to lane against, but there are certainly far more obnoxious champions that aren't getting touched. Why introduce such sweeping changes to a champion who's fine as is? I don't see anyone clamoring for Riot to pigeon-hole her into bot lane. And plenty of people enjoy solo laning with her.

4 Comments

Rico Nasty5/13/2015, 8:37:11 PM1 votes

I am actually considering quitting this game, not even joking. I am a dedicated Karma main, and these nerfs are going to HURT.

Mob Psycho 1005/13/2015, 8:50:11 PM1 votes

I actually think these are nice buffs?

I main Karma mid and I actually like the changes, on paper.

AWESOME Buff too the passive.

Her empowered W will be nice in teamfights and now you can jg karma.

Also Her Empowered E gives more shield to whoever you use it on.

Literally, the only nerf is the empowered W, which I only use when I'm low anyway.

Theyve improved her teamplay, whats wrong with that?

jmonster1295/14/2015, 2:16:00 PM1 votes

karma is fine just because she isn't broken, but she has an imbalanced play style and life in the game,

starts off really strong in solo lane with RQ and RW, but falls off late game when RW and RQ aren't really enough, she needs to be able to cast more mantras late game which is what they are implementing while also giving RE a stronger use for defensive play. They got rid of the odd health scaling on her RW, considering she's a mage she shouldn't really be pushed towards buying health anyways, and hey now it gives you an incentive to use RW outside of low health situations.

she just had some wonky play mechanics that they are looking to fix, make her more streamline in power throughout the game, like most champions, getting stronger as late game goes on, not the other way around, making her other mantra's more effective in stead of RQ always being the default choice, and removing the weird missing health aspect in favor of pushing her to a more AP oriented utility mage