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What does Kha'Zix needs to actually be a good option? (without being broken of course)

YumaS2Astral··2 votes·635 views

Khazix is one of my favorite champions. Often I play him for fun, although sometimes I do actually play him at serious ranked matches. Unfortunately he has many problems. At the jungle he is weak compared to other junglers, and the only enchantment that is viable for him, Warrior, is mediocre and make him fall off late game. At the lanes, Kha'Zix loses many matchups. He can win many of them, but he relies mostly on the enemy making mistakes intead of him making the good plays. Also, Kha'Zix is ridiculously reliant on isolation.

What can be done to solve those problems? I would really like, for example, Kha'Zix to once again be good at mid and top lane. I don't know why he was balanced just around his jungle capabilities, although at least unlike Mordekaiser he isn't restricted and is actually still viable outside of a position. Still... It seems like Riot forget of him. Or they fear that he would be broken again once he was buffed.

14 Comments

HaIlMonitor2 votes

Stop. This is the second thread today and Kha'zix doesn't need help. People need to build him properly then he would be strong instead of the idea that going full glass on a fighter is smart.

Knight SoIaire 2 votes

because kha is meant to be an assasin so most of your items are meant to be for the offense

kha might work ...but he certainly isnt fine ... at least not at the level he is meant to be

the only problem that he ever faced was his power being situational and easy to deny ... you know ... the isolation

in the end kha bounced beetwen 2 states ... op when he didnt need isolation to function ... and up when he actualy had to rely on isolation

if someone tells me thak kha needs higher numbers ... i will slam dunk his skull cause thats bs ... and its good for you to notice that

but the way his isolation works ... could use a tweak ... for a core mechanic it is too unpractical

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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because kha is meant to be an assasin so most of your items are meant to be for the offense

kha might work ...but he certainly isnt fine ... at least not at the level he is meant to be

the only problem that he ever faced was his power being situational and easy to deny ... you know ... the isolation

in the end kha bounced beetwen 2 states ... op when he didnt need isolation to function ... and up when he actualy had to rely on isolation

if someone tells me thak kha needs higher numbers ... i will slam dunk his skull cause thats bs ... and its good for you to notice that

but the way his isolation works ... could use a tweak ... for a core mechanic it is too unpractical

Karthus is actually another champion who has an isolation mechanic, but unlike Kha'Zix he is not completely reliant on it, his Q can still do decent damage against non-isolated targets, also he still has a bunch of AoE damage and, of course, his ult.

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

he has that mechanic ... does not mean that this mechanic shapes the literal core of his gameplay

a fair change .... if kha zix damages an isolated target ... the isolation range for that target drops and gradualy recovers

this means that kha can punish misspositioning and cant be denied all of his functionality when people just step to the side

Spicy Rice1 votes

If we are keeping current mechanics and kit, i believe the way to buff him into a competetive state is to give him a way of temporarily isolating a target no matter whats around them.

Possibly as a part of the evolved ult. Every time he casts, his next auto or q will act as if the target is isolated.

Sett up 4my gank1 votes

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If we are keeping current mechanics and kit, i believe the way to buff him into a competetive state is to give him a way of temporarily isolating a target no matter whats around them.

Possibly as a part of the evolved ult. Every time he casts, his next auto or q will act as if the target is isolated.

That would literally remove all counter play to Kha and break him beyond belief

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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That would literally remove all counter play to Kha and break him beyond belief

Why?

He already isn't that strong right now and there are a number of champions Diana LeeSin Vladimir Irelia Rengar Udyr MasterYi that can outduel Kha'Zix even if they are isolated

Sett up 4my gank1 votes

{quoted}

Why?

He already isn't that strong right now and there are a number of champions Diana LeeSin Vladimir Irelia Rengar Udyr MasterYi that can outduel Kha'Zix even if they are isolated

You just listed dueling champions fighting against an assassin of course they beat him isolated. However not one of those champs has a reliable reset.

Spicy Rice1 votes

How so? All it would be doing is adding some reliability to his damage. I feel that as an assassin, he shouldnt be gated so hard, wspecially when it works off the enemy knoing nothing about kha zix

Rebonack1 votes

Make it so he can only evolve one ability at a time, but allow him to swap the evolve from one to another with a ~0.5 second channel time. Then make it so the evolutions further evolve at levels 11 and 16. Make each of the evolution useful for different sorts of situations. Let Kha actually adapt to what's going on.

Spicy Rice1 votes

How about making the evolution switchbhis ult, and give him certain bonuses for 5 secs after switching. Also, make the new ult cd something around 10

Lugg1 votes

I think it would be cool if his first attack during his ult isolated the target. By that I mean it actually pushes all of the target's allies out to 400 range from them. Kind of like Janna's ult but with no damage or effects to the other targets. This would allow him to take out the target and disrupt the enemy positioning, making him more valuable in teamfights.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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I think it would be cool if his first attack during his ult isolated the target. By that I mean it actually pushes all of the target's allies out to 400 range from them. Kind of like Janna's ult but with no damage or effects to the other targets. This would allow him to take out the target and disrupt the enemy positioning, making him more valuable in teamfights.

Or better yet, just make it so that for an amount of seconds after ulting, the first enemy champion that Kha'Zix attacks is treated as being isolated even if this enemy is less than 400 range near his aliies.

76Summers1 votes

I just want e to have 0.5 ad dammit wtf 0.2 on a assassin??? Really???

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