PSA to all ADCS out there

ExplodingFist66··29 votes·13,171 views

item 3156 and item 3046 do not stack. So stop building them together as if you will get a 1000 HP shield, because you won't. You only get the Lifeline effect from Maw and the shield only applies to you from Phantom Dancer only.

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en2que10 votes

Wait, people dont know how unique passive stacking works? Even I, a lowly silver 4, knows that.

Darkdemon65319 votes

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Wait, people dont know how unique passive stacking works? Even I, a lowly silver 4, knows that.

For the first almost 10 years of Phantom Dancer's existence, it didn't have Lifeline.

en2que1 votes

Eh, fair enough. I've seen people that still think that item 3095 is a "Full AD item 3078 " after all.

ArtumisPrime5 votes

I have never seen or heard anyone say that.

DeleteSuppRole1 votes

he probably had one incident where an adc built both and now he thinks everyone does it

Cotten Eyed Joe1 votes

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Wait, people dont know how unique passive stacking works? Even I, a lowly silver 4, knows that.

I've seen people take Black Cleaver and Triforce in gold games

General Esdeath 1 votes

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Wait, people dont know how unique passive stacking works? Even I, a lowly silver 4, knows that.

To be fair the name is the same but the effect is different if you don't read closely

Maw has a SECOND passive, where if Lifeline is active, you gain stats. A lot of people think those 2 things are on one active.

DUDE BRO5 votes

If you build maw, it's to stop mages. If that's the case, don't buiid phantom dancer. If you need protection vs AD too, build guardian angel.

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Eedat1 votes

item 3046 + item 3139

hrooza dota 5 votes

Ezreal item 3100 item 3078 item 3025 is da real shit

Hammermancer2 votes

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Ezreal item 3100 item 3078 item 3025 is da real shit

Ezreal item 3078 item 3100 item 3025 item 3022 item 3116 sell boots for item 3071

D357R0Y3R3 votes

it's still good

people aren't building it to stack passive

people are building it because PD passive + maw MR is great to survive against stuff like leblanc

ExplodingFist669 votes

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it's still good

people aren't building it to stack passive

people are building it because PD passive + maw MR is great to survive against stuff like leblanc

But then the magic shield is meaningless. You wanna know why people buy Maw in the first place? The magic shield and magic resist. Yet you're losing a key part to the item by stacking it on another item. The shield's value is completely lost and you practically lose gold.

Eedat9 votes

No reason to not buy item 3139 instead

Ragnaveil2 votes

Especially in the face of a Mordekaiser. You practically take his golden ticket and shit on it.

floo1 votes

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it's still good

people aren't building it to stack passive

people are building it because PD passive + maw MR is great to survive against stuff like leblanc

Then you build Mercurial + either PD or Maw, depending on if you're crit and how many other ap champs you're against.

MessyStuff1 votes

I mean I never buy maw as an adc so...(only qss)

AnotherFeeder1 votes

Only reason to even build a maw right now is if you need the cdr. For an adc wits end is def the way to go for mr.

Kenneky1 votes

I do like stacing item 3046, but for other reasons, to go FAST Jhin I like stacking item 3031 over anything, on Jhin in particular, I like the raw damage it provides, but I sacrifice defence and other stats for damage, which is not something you want to go for every game, but still It's funny to build multiple IE on Jhin.

ArtumisPrime3 votes

Stacking PD on Jhin for MS is dumb. Runaan's gives 7% MS compared to PD's 5, and the MS bonus Spectral Waltz (edited for clarity) on PD is unique, so they don't stack.

Kenneky1 votes

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Stacking PD on Jhin for MS is dumb. Runaan's gives 7% MS compared to PD's 5, and the MS bonus Spectral Waltz (edited for clarity) on PD is unique, so they don't stack.

This is mostly a troll build, I rarely actually build It, I used to build It often when Nexus Blitz was around (I used NB to experiment with various troll builds, like AS Lulu). It's better and more fun than the AP build, but that's my preference...

ArtumisPrime1 votes

Of course it's a troll build. I've seen The Fast too. The point I was making is that if you're going to rock a troll build, at least optimize it.

Daddy Ants1 votes

I never buy Maw on ADC.

Phantom Dancer's just better.

Sir Saltarin1 votes

Why PSA to all ADCS when profesionals midlaners as Bdd buy triple lifeline LUL

Trist mid opop1 votes

Its more common for yas or lee sin to go double lifeline with steraks. A gp in lcs a few years ago bought steraks and maw...

ExplodingFist662 votes

That's because Sterak's and Maw did stack years ago. Ever since the PD rework Riot made all three of their shield passives actually unique. Buying all three and getting a 2000 health shield would be broken.

Trist mid opop1 votes

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That's because Sterak's and Maw did stack years ago. Ever since the PD rework Riot made all three of their shield passives actually unique. Buying all three and getting a 2000 health shield would be broken.

They were unique before pd rework. Or atleast maw, hexdrinker and steraks

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