Am I the only one bothered that 90% of games at Diamond+ come down to counter picks?

Yenn··7 votes·1,333 views

Is Riot really okay with this?

The champion pool has grown so big that there are multiple hard counters to most champions. These match ups are so retarded that a Silver player can easily beat a Diamond player, because skill is totally irrelevant.

Is this not going to be addressed?

30 Comments

Rand0mH3r0X2 votes

So if I see my enemy pick rock, am I not allowed to pick paper? Should I pick rock, too?

Yenn1 votes

Matchmaking just put me on a team to counter another Diamond player on the enemy team.

Except I'm playing Aurelion Sol and the Diamond player is laned against me as Riven. I can't do a single fucking thing in this game. It's basically just a waste of 20 minutes.

The Deckowner1 votes

OP picks are clearly bigger problem than counter picks atm.

Yenn3 votes

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OP picks are clearly bigger problem than counter picks atm.

At lower ratings. Not at Diamond. Counter picks can completely remove a player from the game, regardless of skill level of either players.

The Deckowner1 votes

well the purpose of op picks are that they counter all other picks in some way and don't get countered by the frequently played champions.

Daxanater1 votes

Riot's here to save the day! Don't worry they will continue adding champions and reworking champions making it much a worse and a horrific game experience...

Well for real I agree with you, I don't think this game takes any "skill" anymore and when I say that I mean it, I'm not going around saying fizz takes no skill (well..) but I'm starting to believe ranks don't really show how good you are at the game anymore.

BluePolarizer1 votes

I dunno, I saw some ugly things from silvers...

fullbacks631 votes

People have this notion in their heads that Diamond players are these Albert Einsteins with superb thinking capabilities and magical powers. Some may be brilliant people but this so called skill you speak of is just lots of game experience. I started this game in November, reached level 30 on my other main account in January. Got stuck in bronze 5 on that account, its still stuck in bronze 2 right now. Anyway, I eventually learned to just play all the champions during free rotations and games because now I know how each champions abilities work. Eventually I did a lot better because I knew how to work around these abilities during cool downs.

Long story short, stop thinking of yourself as so skilled. When I watch games like Trick 2 G and other streamers, they make dumb mistakes too. When I queue with my diamond friends I own their diamond/plat opponents with non OP champs. Sure some players in bronze and silver are questionably devoid of common sense, but many are skilled champs who can rip you to pieces in the game.

Yenn3 votes

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People have this notion in their heads that Diamond players are these Albert Einsteins with superb thinking capabilities and magical powers. Some may be brilliant people but this so called skill you speak of is just lots of game experience. I started this game in November, reached level 30 on my other main account in January. Got stuck in bronze 5 on that account, its still stuck in bronze 2 right now. Anyway, I eventually learned to just play all the champions during free rotations and games because now I know how each champions abilities work. Eventually I did a lot better because I knew how to work around these abilities during cool downs.

Long story short, stop thinking of yourself as so skilled. When I watch games like Trick 2 G and other streamers, they make dumb mistakes too. When I queue with my diamond friends I own their diamond/plat opponents with non OP champs. Sure some players in bronze and silver are questionably devoid of common sense, but many are skilled champs who can rip you to pieces in the game.

So why can I carry to Diamond on smurfs and you can't? The answer is that it's because you're not good.

Stop trying to make yourself feel better and actually get good at this game.

fullbacks631 votes

You want to 1 v 1 me? I didn't think so.

I am 100X better than you will ever be. And ill tell you why, my actual real world intelligence is light years beyond your plebeian video game addicted limited vision.

Bobloser35551 votes

Get off your high horse, people in bronze or silver cannot comprehend the skill difference of a diamond player.

fullbacks631 votes

Actually yes they can, this game takes 0 Skill to win. Thats why its so easy to climb to diamond. We have stoners and college drop outs in diamond.

Bobloser35551 votes

Mechanical skill? Well you need fast reactions and a lot of game knowledge. So it depends what you mean by skill. It's probably true that you can get pretty far if you know what to do at any point in the game, but it wont be enough to get to challenger because there you also need to be fast.

fullbacks631 votes

Just took a look at ur match history, besides being a perpetual feeder, who plays NORMAL games, your GPM is equal to that of a bronze 5 or worse. I usually keep it at 400, yours are like 200-300.

Your account is purchased and youre boosted.

exigentomic1 votes

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Just took a look at ur match history, besides being a perpetual feeder, who plays NORMAL games, your GPM is equal to that of a bronze 5 or worse. I usually keep it at 400, yours are like 200-300.

Your account is purchased and youre boosted.

you absolutely can't make conclusions based on small samples and especially can't compare stats for different ELO tiers. getting fed in Silver doesn't mean you can do it in Diamond etc. he's clearly proven to be an excellent player and until you also get a higher ranking than him, your comments just seem hateful and pointless with no basis. it just seems like you suffer from the dunning-kruger effect - thinking you're actually good because you're so bad that you don't even understand what you're doing wrong. even suggesting he should 1v1 you is hilarious because it would prove absolutely nothing in a team game where what matters most is knowing how to strategically apply pressure and where to be on the map, not dueling some guy mindlessly. all you can go by is actual performance. there are many styles to play this game successfully.

BTW: What's wrong with playing normals? You'd rather he play ranked when he's just screwing around and not try-harding at all?

fullbacks631 votes

Ah a psychology major, classic group of people who dont know what they are talking about. Im better than most of the people on here, I beat diamonds and plats all the time, like I said earlier when I play. I dont suffer from the dunnign kruger effect but it seems like you suffer from autism. Gl with life, Get gud. Im 100X better than any of you ever will be.

exigentomic4 votes

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Ah a psychology major, classic group of people who dont know what they are talking about. Im better than most of the people on here, I beat diamonds and plats all the time, like I said earlier when I play. I dont suffer from the dunnign kruger effect but it seems like you suffer from autism. Gl with life, Get gud. Im 100X better than any of you ever will be.

not even a psychology major but all you're doing is harassing random people and resorting to personal attacks. in the only metric that is a valid indication of skill (actual results), you're among the very worst at the game yet are berating someone who has proven a much higher skill level (not just empty words from a Silver 4). also, no, you don't beat Diamonds and Plats all the time because you're Silver 4 so you wouldn't even face them in a competitive environment.

I hope you don't look at normals results as something to be taken seriously. beating a diamond in a normal doesn't mean anything at all. most people play normals to relax and aren't even trying to cs well or play their best champions or even make the best winning decisions (sometimes just going for a hero play/kills is more fun). the only time you can actually use that as an argument is if you're beating diamonds and plats consistently in RANKED not random normals. what's next? are you going to tell us about your URF skills too and how you beat Masters players there? no one cares if it's not ranked. and if it was actually true that you consistently have the skill to beat diamonds and plats (not just in lane but in terms of decision making throughout too), you would definitely not be Silver 4. you're beyond delusional.

fullbacks631 votes

Man its like this game steals your thinking power away.

You dont understand, I AM DIAMOND on another account. It is easy to climb to diamond, Plat gold silver are just jokes. Diamond is also a joke. This person has not proven anything. Diamond is really just for players who know the game in and out, Theres no difference in skill. Intelligence is what wins at this game, not your so called idea of "skill. Never the less you will never understand because you are not an intelligent individual, yet you are speaking to one who is one of the smartest in the country.

You can watch these games played by the so called challenger players and they are easy, however well coordinated as well. there isnt much of a difference between the elos, just the amount of addiction people have to the game.

I know me telling you that none of you are special hurts you deep down inside, because your mommy told you, you were special, but I am sorry to inform you, you are not. Not special kiddo. Never will be either.

League is just a game, and it comes down to common sense. You addicts have made this into a whole new study which it really isnt. there are plenty of bright individuals out there who can sit on this game (myself included) see the rules and play style and be able to ace it in a few minutes.

Anyway, you lack comprehension power to understand.

exigentomic1 votes

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Man its like this game steals your thinking power away.

You dont understand, I AM DIAMOND on another account. It is easy to climb to diamond, Plat gold silver are just jokes. Diamond is also a joke. This person has not proven anything. Diamond is really just for players who know the game in and out, Theres no difference in skill. Intelligence is what wins at this game, not your so called idea of "skill. Never the less you will never understand because you are not an intelligent individual, yet you are speaking to one who is one of the smartest in the country.

You can watch these games played by the so called challenger players and they are easy, however well coordinated as well. there isnt much of a difference between the elos, just the amount of addiction people have to the game.

I know me telling you that none of you are special hurts you deep down inside, because your mommy told you, you were special, but I am sorry to inform you, you are not. Not special kiddo. Never will be either.

League is just a game, and it comes down to common sense. You addicts have made this into a whole new study which it really isnt. there are plenty of bright individuals out there who can sit on this game (myself included) see the rules and play style and be able to ace it in a few minutes.

Anyway, you lack comprehension power to understand.

you have a hilariously inflated view of yourself for absolutely no reason. have you won the Nobel Prize or discovered some huge scientific breakthrough? it's usually the dumbest people who proclaim themselves the smartest. as for this game, intelligence actually plays a minor role to practice. SC2 or chess and a number of other games require way more on the fly thinking than LoL.

btw: you assessment that all ELOs are the same is just not true statistically. even the fact that boosters exist is proof of this. what is your Diamond account anyway? you use a lot of words to say nothing of value. your posts are just constant unsupported claims and vague ranting with some ad hominems sprinkled in. I doubt someone can be this incoherent and intelligent at the same time.

Kan1x2 votes

Cmon bro he's diamond on the account that doesn't exist, telling you that you're incapable of thinking clearly.

Last time i checked, being diamond on one account and getting crap CS / GPM on the account used to smack talk makes complete logical sense.

/endSarcasm

Im bronze and i'm not this dumb. Someone boost me.

fullbacks631 votes

Actually yes, I have made one of the most important scientific break through's in medicine. A new implantable pancreas to help diabetes patients. but you guys are so addicted to this game, you know nothing about real life.

That usually isnt true but since you are so narrow minded and your parents taught you, you are a special snowflake, you think smart people are dumb. Again, look at yourself in the mirror.

ELO boosters, are made by people who WANT To spend time making meager money boosting people on ELOS. Remember different people play this game for different reasons. Some are high/drunk while playing it, some dont care, they just want to have fun.

I am Diamond on another account and with the brainless people on this game I have no doubt with a little more experience I can carry it to challenger.

These so called idols people have in league of legends, are college drop outs, not Americas "Greatest". Fighting against people with poor cognitive skills, and low IQ, reduced common sense, makes this game that much easier.

exigentomic1 votes

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Actually yes, I have made one of the most important scientific break through's in medicine. A new implantable pancreas to help diabetes patients. but you guys are so addicted to this game, you know nothing about real life.

That usually isnt true but since you are so narrow minded and your parents taught you, you are a special snowflake, you think smart people are dumb. Again, look at yourself in the mirror.

ELO boosters, are made by people who WANT To spend time making meager money boosting people on ELOS. Remember different people play this game for different reasons. Some are high/drunk while playing it, some dont care, they just want to have fun.

I am Diamond on another account and with the brainless people on this game I have no doubt with a little more experience I can carry it to challenger.

These so called idols people have in league of legends, are college drop outs, not Americas "Greatest". Fighting against people with poor cognitive skills, and low IQ, reduced common sense, makes this game that much easier.

How about you link to the article about your personal scientific breakthroughs and also link to your Diamond account? it's also funny to me that you suggest everyone who is good at this game must be an addict or that someone who is a college dropout/etc. cannot be good at anything but rather the activity itself must be extremely trivial. there are also "idiot savants" who excel at chess, musc, maths etc. yet that doesn't make all those activities easy. that's no argument at all.

all I see from you is bombastic and pompous statements with no support. wild speculation about how good you "could" be and how you're this and that but again no evidence. you have a serious narcissistic personality disorder but you're no more special than anyone else, just like you've said about others who you personally do not know.

fullbacks631 votes

So you can have my personal identity name and information for you to steal credit card info from and be toxic about it like you league of babies are? No. Research it yourself.

The only idiots are people like you, who think you are special at this game for being diamond when really most diamond players are just there by pure addiction and stupidity. intelligent individuals can easily climb to diamond

exigentomic1 votes

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So you can have my personal identity name and information for you to steal credit card info from and be toxic about it like you league of babies are? No. Research it yourself.

The only idiots are people like you, who think you are special at this game for being diamond when really most diamond players are just there by pure addiction and stupidity. intelligent individuals can easily climb to diamond

there's always some excuse with you. all talk and no proof. even a link to your still anonymous Diamond account is too hard.

5050BS1 votes

You are not the only player with a real life Scientific break through and plays at high ELO

Check out my video on a Quantum Computer Im working on. FYI they are not hard to make.

Quantum Computer - Next Gen

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

they need to give everyone a ban. or at least switch them to the first 3 picks.i dont play in diamond. silver. but i do hate it when the enemy picks the hardest counter as if they just googled the highest winrate against such champion i have

exigentomic1 votes

don't blind-pick easily countered champions

there are plenty of safe blind picks for mid like Ahri or Orianna

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

There are no hard counters in Lol, you can always swap lane with your toplaner, if you have hard lane like Tf vs Yasuo/Zed, Ziggs vs Fizz post lvl 6 etc.

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