ADC has literally zero influence on the game
They deal zero damage until after 30 minutes, and the game is decided after the first 10.
They deal zero damage until after 30 minutes, and the game is decided after the first 10.
....even
I really dont know why people think adc is so useless early game, I rush
tabi as a
and get crited on for 183 dmg by a
who didnt even use q, and only had
,and
Against a competent botlane, Vayne will lose lane without heavy jungler intervention.
Competent champs or competent players? because I can never catch
as
, she is pretty much immune to slows from tongue lash since she has a roll/gap closer, literally all I can do is eat my teammate when they have 2 stacks so we don`t lose trades hopefully.
Correction: If your AD isn't trash you'll stomp Vayne - she literally cannot trade pre-6 against a competent

- in the case of Varus, Jhin and Cait, because they outrange Vayne significantly and can easily harass her, or in the case of Lucian and Ezreal, their early game is much better.
Play something aggro against Vayne and soak up the tears.
I keep getting ADs that tower dive the enemy who are more then a third of their hp, is that too aggro?
Its like, I use all my mana to poke them down and establish lane dominance so my AD can farm freely, but then they int feed, are you supposed to go entirely aggro and kill the enemy lane? The same even happens when my AD is
.
?
"Literally zero"
Whoever dies more to ganks gives more gold away to the actually useful champions?
bruh

Both of those are late game champions.
well that's the point, they get to late game and they need to get focused by the entire team
Please refrain from speaking in absolutes unless you're sure because it's really damn easy to prove you wrong here and i don't even have to because its so obvious! You can do better i honestly believe in you and if you want i know you can remake this thread in a much better way that really shows what you want to say :)