Hey Riot remember those missions you created a while back?
You know how people are getting worried about not getting BE anymore after games?
Yeah.
Use those.
Make missions that give out BE instead of just being pointless Icon farms. That would be a good way to ease people's concerns.
Swaid7 votesCause seriously, Riot, my dawgs, I only have one icon I'll ever use and its not going to be the endless number of them you keep giving from these missions. When I do quests in Heroes of the Storm I get mounts, icons, sprays, and even skins, why the hell would I bother spending arguably much longer time trying to get one frickin' icon when I only use the one I got back in 2010ish?
Kloqdq6 votesTrue true ^ They are talking about adding a collection tab for people to show off what Icons they have but no one is going to look at that probably. It is about as interesting as a stamp collection.
Sad Tyrant3 votessome people like stamps and are extremely interested in stamp collections
Kloqdq1 votestrue true
Hellioning3 votesOr you can just get BE from the champ shards you get in the chests you get from levelling up, like Riot has repeatedly stated will happen...
Kloqdq24 votesOr you can have both...? Weekly missions are not rare in games at all and are just generally standard. Especially when you remove the IP from games. I don't see why we can't have 3 missions a week that give out 1500 BE in total. It would just be a simple way to make some people happy.
Hellioning5 votesBecause Riot wants to sell champions with RP. Giving away too much IP/BE is contrary to that goal.
Kloqdq3 votesYes and so do many other games which have FAR less characters to use it on. BE also buys the chromas and several other things such as mastery. So the system is going to be really stressed because I doubt you will get a whole lot of BE with the current information I am seeing.
Yet other games are already doing this but they are still doing just fine. So why on earth are we just disallowed to use the very basic system that is only giving us Icons or things we have to pay into that only come around once in a blue moon. Let's just use this to put in weekly missions that hardly reward people but at least give something for players who keep up. Hell a lot of games do daily rewards that provide currency that you can only get via money but they do it often.
This is really just a simple solution to a lot of peoples problem moving forward.
Hellioning2 votesBecause the other games need to give much more away in order to attract players from the big MOBAs. LoL, as one of the big MOBAs, doesn't need to give as much away.
Also, just because another game does it doesn't mean it makes sense for LoL to do it. DotA gives all their heroes away for free and doesn't have a currency system, but I don't see you claiming that LoL should do the same.
Kloqdq6 votesI am not saying that. What I am saying is why not use the fucking stupid mission system for something instead of having it be a worthless time sink that only is active like once every 2 months. I legit offered one of the simplest ideas and you are acting like it is the worst idea around.
It's legit like 1500 BE. It is almost meaningless but it at least uses the system that does nothing half the time while also giving people some BE because it's at least a simple reward for everyone.
Hellioning3 votesCalm down, dude. I'm not 'acting like it is the worst idea around'.
1500 BE is a fourth of the most expensive champ in the game. It is up to 3 of the cheapest champions in the game. It is not 'almost meaningless'.
Kloqdq4 votesYou are forgetting there is about 2-4 other things to spend BE on so what I am not understanding is why we can't have this. There is a giant amount of content for players to invest into but if we are only getting 1 champion pre-chest like I am currently understanding, at a lower exchange rate, then we should probably consider this as a valid option for people. What if I get a bunch of 1350 champions from chest which as far as I know only exchange for like 96 BE. Why can't we get missions that offer players a chance to gather a little extra BE every week? It wouldn't hurt sales and it again, uses their mission system which just sits worthless for weeks on end.
Hellioning2 votesExcept it would hurt sales. It would give you more BE then they have planned.
(Also, bear in mind that current BE disenchant rates will go up.)
Kloqdq1 votesBE rates go down. They will exchange high at first but go down afterwards. So we are getting far less in total.
Shepherd o Souls5 votesI have to agree with you on this, the more BE handed out the less money they will make in return. We should wait to actually see numbers before we start saying there isn't enough BE from the system.
CaptainAntiHeroz1 votesSure, go ahead and buy alistar or fidd cuz if the price is the same they'll be 1350
DeathBurst2 votesI doubt you will get a whole lot of BE with the current information I am seeing.
The current information you're seeing (at least if you're reading correctly) has clearly and explicitly stated that** the new version was balanced around letting people unlock as many champs as before for post-level30 players**, except the people who play a large amount of games everyday, because they increased the importance of the First Win of the Day Bonus, and people who play much more than the average won't benefit as much from this bonus.
Kloqdq1 votesWe still don't know all the details but the fact is we are getting chests which may or may not need keys that unlock champion shards that pick from 140 with many being low grade with a drop to the exchange rate of BE. We are only getting BE from these chests and the chests only unlock from leveling up which is either going to be a flat rate or a growing rate and these level ups may swap out chests for other things for players. By all means it just seems like we are getting more chances at getting it but the amount will not be a reliable number the players can reasonably count.
Besides the whole point of these WHOLE POST was to just;
It isn't going to break the bank nor is it even a big deal. It is a little thing that just makes sense with these new systems in place.
DeathBurst2 votesthe fact is we are getting chests which may or may not need keys
No. The fact is that Cactopus said EXPLICITLY and MULTIPLE TIMES that you don't need keys.
The whole point of MY post is: check your damn facts before commenting.
I did not say anything about your suggestion, because I don't care about it. It's relatively reasonable (which is already a good thing in the middle of that ridiculous shit-storm), it would be nice, but it's not needed and there are much more important things to do for the game. I have no strong opinion, neither for nor against. So I didn't comment on it.
But your "facts"? It's "alternative facts" level bullshit. Check your damn facts.
Kloqdq1 votesHonestly this is the problem with this whole case. The facts are posted everywhere and everyone is confused. Honestly I don't care about this thread at all. It is a waste of time and it is just causing more confusion like 90% of the posts on the boards right now. My main point was - here is an idea - use it.
I do not and never did care about this whole thread of back and forth bitching because at the end of the day I do not and neither does anyone else here have the system in front of them to judge it. Just hearsay. No one knows 100% for sure what is happening and I merely offered a fucking idea because that is what this post was about. An idea.
The other guy stopped, end of story. You did not need to keep it going and this is why we have so many board posts that are fucking shit because of pointless arguing about a system that we do not have in front of us to properly make judgments on. Please stop commenting and move on if you do not care about the idea. I would delete this thread if I could because it wastes everyone time reading it.
DeathBurst1 votesI'm sorry, now it's "bitching" to point out that people are factually wrong? No I won't move on if I don't care about the idea one way or another, because I DO care about that absurd and baseless Riot bashing and misinformation.
And hum, what other guy stopped doing what, exactly? What are you even talking about? I've only ever replied to you.
And finally, you CAN delete threads, if you actually want to do it. There is a delete button at the bottom of it. For the OP and for each individual comment.
Kloqdq1 votesThis whole thread is just pointless arguing. It's really that simple because it does not lead to anything. For one there has been not a single point in this thread where I am bashing Riot so I have no idea where you got that from. Two, the information I have is from what I have understood and seen from the numerous posts flying around. There is no solid source of information so I know I am not the only one misunderstanding things.
Other guy stopped and frankly so should you because again, this whole thing is pointless. I am not bashing Riot, I am only saying what I understand from this. If you wanted to actually do something, provide sources and then I would be able to actually see the proof.
I see no way to delete a comment thread like this one that has gone on for FAR to long. This idea is what matters. What you and I are doing does nothing. Simple.
I am not replying any more because this isn't going anywhere and wasting my time.
DeathBurst1 votesSources:
http://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/2017/09/upcoming-changes-to-leveling-ip-rewards/
Instead of getting IP after every game, you’ll receive an unlocked chest—called a capsule—every time you level up. These capsules contain champ shards and blue essence, and if you hit special milestone levels, you’ll earn special rewards like gemstones or hella rare emotes.
The whole system is balanced so it will be as fast or faster to unlock champions than before with the IP-based system. That said, we are making First win of the Day more important (it'll give a ton of XP). So if you're the type of player who plays tons of games every day you might find it slightly slower. Otherwise you'll be unlocking champs in at roughly the same or faster rate.
We are NOT making it harder for you to unlock champs. Unlocking champs is getting way faster for everyone with preseason with runes becoming free, and then we're also tuning leveling speeds specifically so that leveling gets you champs as fast or a little faster than the old IP-after-every-game system.
This is why we keep stressing that the new system isn't going to slow down the rate at which you earn champs. For players like you, you're almost certainly going to be earning them faster than before. The only folks who might earn champs a little more slowly are the people who play tons of games every day and reach a very high level. And even then it's only going to feel a little slower for them because we're putting more power into the First Win of the Day (it'll give a lot of bonus XP). So I don't think you have anything to worry about.
The chests you get in the new leveling system are almost ALWAYS champion shards, and that's not different for noobs.
The only exceptions are when you hit milestone levels (50, 75, 100, etc.), which give you exclusive cosmetic content. We definitely are not intending to give players exclusive cosmetic content for leveling from 1-30. There has been an idea floating around about maybe giving you like a random ward skin or whatever when you hit 20, but I don't actually think we're even going to do that. So again, if you're already level 30, you're not actually missing out on anything. You got IP when you were leveling. Instead of IP, noobs in the new system are just getting cheapo 450 IP champions and champion shards (which can be turned into BE, which is now the same as the IP you got back in the day).
Cowseed1 votesI don't like the champ thing. What if you keep getting cheap champs :(
If the raw blue essence recieved with the champ and up to a static or almost static amount i'd be fine with it but we don't really know yet
Glory ln Death1 votesIn the video, they explained that you are guaranteed "raw" BE from the chests, along with the champ/icon/whatever shards.
CaptainAntiHeroz1 votesU say that like leveling up will be easy
Hellioning1 votesBecause it will be.
Ashen Rider3 votesIf you payed attention you would know that they are already going to do that.
Kloqdq29 votesLink? Never saw or heard about any of this.
iamthegoatofwar16 voteswe're waiting motha fucka.
Cowseed9 votes....Proof?
You don't even have any pudding that it could be in :(
Jeddy0174 votesI have not heard a single thing about missions in regards to all these IP/BE changes. In fact, I haven't heard a thing about missions in general in a while besides a recent Rito pls post. So where did you hear that from?
Ashen Rider1 votesBoards wouldn't let me post yesterday so I'm trying again now. I definitely remember seeing this and am currently searching for the source. Spamming "Source?" at me doesn't help.
Fefnil1 votesIn the article Riot pls: Leveling, Ip and Rewards they said they were going to turn First win of the day into a daily mission. That's probably what you meant.
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2017/09/riot-pls-leveling-ip-and-rewards.html
Ashen Rider1 votesYes that is it, thank you. I didn't check there because I thought that it would be fairly well known info if it was in that article.
Kloqdq1 votesThat is just the same thing but a mission? It is actually arguably stupid to be considering that compared to this idea. They basically are taking something that already exists and works fine but changing it to a mission making it actually just annoying if it has requirements.
Ashen Rider1 votesI misremembered what they said. I apologize for my earlier rudeness. I do agree that they should add a daily mission for BE, especially since the first win of the day is going to give XP, not BE.
Kloqdq1 votesNo problem at all.
Vanic9982 votesWhen I read your title I thought you wanted a riot (the word not the company).
Kloqdq1 votesPlease no XD
People are already trying to and I don't want to do that xD
íheartdubies2 votesthis is an incredible idea, keep BE like that and add dailly/weekly/monthly missions.
maybe let ip purchase upgradeable icons or ward skins like the ranked team 5v5 or solo que trinkets. maybe customizeable recall animation
Kloqdq1 votesI know the BE shop will have stuff like that in it so BE will have more uses than just champions now.
Sexy Jack Rabbit2 votesAnything better then more icons.
Fuck. Icons.
Snake Prince1 votesMissions the last event were PAYWALLED .
Kloqdq1 votesThese would just be normal weekly missions. Nothing special. Have say 3 a week that give a total of 1500 BE. That's about 6000 every month if a player completes them. Not to bad in my opinion.
Rainfall1 votesRIOT GAMES: Do not worry we will make missions //meddler laughs evily //makes all missions avaiable only for rp