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Do people want more Visual Updates? (Twitch, Karthus, etc.)

Kloqdq·6/26/2017, 3:22:36 PM·48 votes·2,021 views

So I saw a post from earlier about someone wanting more VUs. In it a Rioter replied saying that they went underappreciated but he used ones like MF or Alistar. Now I want to know if you guys want more Visual Updates in the style of Twitch, Karthus, etc. Ones that fully realize a character and change the model, art, voice, lines, ability visuals, etc.

I want to get as many people's votes on this so that way Riot can see if this is something people would honestly want.

Edit: To clarify I am not saying we need to just stop doing VGU or anything. I would just like Riot to know that VUs can be just as important for getting someone to play and like a champion. Prior to his VU, I never touched Karthus. Lulu is someone I just won't enjoy before of her ugly base skin. I was playing a lot of Twitch when he got a VU and I just died with happiness. To me, a VU is also massively important. According to Riot, they just don't seem interested in it because they believe people don't care as much.

Edit #2: So I am going to keep checking this post and replying to everyone as best as I can. Thanks to everyone voting! On Friday I am going to tally up everything and then do a final thoughts post regarding this. I am listening to everyone and I have a lot to say in general. If you have anything to say leave a comment because this is something that should be discussed! Thanks for everyone!

52 Comments

Blood Magicks6/26/2017, 3:26:42 PM19 votes

Update all of the Black Rose (except Elise, she's new) together. Swain Leblanc Vladimir came out around the same time and are equally dated to the point of goofiness. Swain is in line for a VGU, but LeBlanc is arguably just as important for the lore and Vladdie is just a babe.

http://berylcirclet.deviantart.com/art/Commission-Black-Rose-Group-Portrait-674764659

riot pls

EDIT this is my inner fan speaking I cannot control it

Aeszarck6/26/2017, 3:40:41 PM13 votes

I do want more Visual updates, but I realize how much work they take, and I don't think that they're worth the amount of work if a Visual/Gameplay update only takes a bit more. Visual/Gameplay updates are very important for League of Legends and I think those should be prioritized over Visual updates.

Valor Bot6/26/2017, 3:29:39 PM9 votes

I love visual updates, but I think VGUs are far more important for the future of the game. If Riot started doing pure VUs again, they'd have to take resources away from the VGU teams, which would slow down their overall production rate:

{quoted}If we wanted to do VUs again we would have to spin up a whole team dedicated to doing VUs unless we wanted to significantly slow down the amount of VGUs we are doing which we don't want to do as players have shown they really love and want more VGUs.

When we do a GU update tons of player try out the new champion. In General whenever we do gameplay updates to the game or champions it gets players excited to play league. We don't see this same response for VUs.

Lee Sin for example is pretty old visually though it doesn't really stop him from being one of the most popular champions in the game. On the other hand If a champion has unhealthy or dated/boring gameplay very few people will play that Champion.

Sorry for getting very producer-y here but I hope that makes sense.

Killaburn6/26/2017, 3:32:31 PM4 votes

I'am the one that posted that lols and i vote yes because some only needed a VU ove a VGU and its not kinda fair that GU got some love except the VU. example is caitlyn.. she has a potential to be a great piltoverian sheriff and her design is kinda meh but her kit is ok ... and veigar too .. kit is ok design is cartonie :D

Karakot6/26/2017, 10:06:56 PM3 votes

Id rather see more VGUs over VU's personally, but maybe that's just me

KoKoboto6/26/2017, 6:37:08 PM3 votes

Sivir, Twitch, Alistar and Karthus are all amazing examples of VUs. More of them would be fantastic, it makes the character feel like an actual character. Miss Fortune desperately needs one. Her background doesn't match up with the sexual innuendo trope we got going on right now.

Helmight6/27/2017, 12:17:38 AM3 votes

I would prefer if Riot focused on VGUs instead of trying to support VUs as well. The ultimate payoff of VGUs is ALWAYS higher than VUs, and if you're already updating the textures/model/animations of a champion, you may as well look at their kit to determine if there's something you can do to improve their play patterns.

Blakiepug6/26/2017, 7:13:20 PM2 votes

Yes please, but only if they handle them with more care as was done with Warwick's. I don't want to see anymore champions removed from the game like Galio. I am really sick of VGU's.

Big Lincoln6/26/2017, 5:53:07 PM2 votes

yeah i would

VGUs suck ass but the big VUs have been excellent

mr Boombastic7876/27/2017, 9:30:13 AM1 votes

Of course if you put it that way people will pick yes. (sorry if I come of as grumpy or mean, I'm not :V) But I think it would have made more sense if you also give an option to "Yes, but you might aswell update gameplay at the same time" kinda thing. Because in my opinion it would be much better if they could use that oppertunity to at the same time as the VU just slap on some gameplay tweaks to modernize the champ. It doesn't have to be much but just a little bit since it otherwise would be a missed oppertunity.

Me0wstic6/27/2017, 1:42:27 PM1 votes

This question is kinda biased. Almost everyone wants more VU's, me too. But that doesnt mean I want a VU over a (V)GU.

DemiMax6/27/2017, 6:02:18 PM1 votes

Absolutely yes, back when i was way more active on the boards i made a thread about exactly this. Update visual, effects and enhance the characters personality, story and motifs through new dialogue and maybe updated lore without compeletely changing the character in its entirety. There are good examples of this in the past Annie Heimerdinger Karthus Karma Nasus Sejuani (back then) Singed Twitch Kassadin Maokai . Thats not to say VGU's are bad, but there are champions that need a fresh coat of paint without a need to touch their kit such as Caitlyn Pantheon Shaco Udyr Swain Nunu , just imagining these champions with fresh animations, dialogue, lore and effects is enough to get me into a entire new level of excitement. There really isn't any reason to drop VUs. (Some of the champions i mentioned have had changes to their kit but it wasn't significant to a point where they felt like a diferent champion because of it. And some unfortunately didn't get new dialogue ( Singed Kassadin Maokai )