5% movement speed on stinger

Rozair·Jan 25, 2017·12 votes·738 views

As of now the movement speed on triforce comes from nowhere. Also nashor tooth could use a buff.

28 Comments

AptestJan 25, 20172 votes

how about we consider the MS creep a little bit and just... remove MS from triforce?

because if them bruisers want ms, they should build it specifically.

RozairJan 25, 20172 votes

There are a ton of mobile champions in the game. It makes movement speed that much more important. I think there should be more items with speed if anything. That's my opinion though

RozairJan 25, 20172 votes

There isn't that many options for movement speed unless your an adc or you build deadmans plate.

LordGeovanniJan 26, 20171 votes

even less good options unless you are an adc or mage item 3285 (10% ms on top damageing ap item is ridiculous) some bruisers dont want to build item 3078 or item 3071 because of the the cdr over cap and the lack of offensive stats you already missing 300-500 range why not make it so your core items have shit damage because of the potiental of ranged champions to use it.

48983507DEL1Jan 26, 20171 votes

I mean.

On a bruiser.

If they're building Tri-force.

They're not building Cleaver.

Which means.

They're kinda doing it.

For the stats.

That Tri-force gives.

Which includes.

Movement speed.

Lol.

LordGeovanniJan 26, 20171 votes

Ms creep is bad on safe champions mages and adcs who dont need it because they start out with range to do damage from not melee champions who need movement speed to even get in range.

AptestJan 26, 20171 votes

I am not against MS. I am against FREE MS.

I am against Zeal having MS on it because why should ADCs get MS without sacrificing a core stat? for the same reason bruisers and melees.

If I am playing a champion that can not fight a bruiser (like a support or an ADC), why should the bruiser be able to just b-line towards me for free? Let him spend some gold at getting to me, and sacrifice being as good VS the champions that can fight him. or let him rely on his support or jungler to provide "catch"

LordGeovanniJan 26, 20171 votes

bruisers are melee and in that take damage sooner and effectively more damage than squishies that is the sacrifice. ps remeber this time season six when adcs were all takeing bruiser items and got them all nerfed and they do shit damage now.

Handy Sandy Jan 25, 20172 votes

Nashor's tooth buff? Then you're gonna break Azir . He's already three shotting people with one of them, sometimes two shotting people if he has 2.

RozairJan 25, 20172 votes

5% movement speed won't give him any more damage lol

LordGeovanniJan 26, 20171 votes

nope just impossible to catch when combined with his shuffle

CatSithJan 26, 20172 votes

Hes not 3 shotting people with nashors lol.

Elite4RunnerJan 25, 20171 votes

You could argue that it comes from Phage, .. but we all know it is only there because TriForce used to build out of Zeal instead of Stinger.

I kinda think that they should just remove the flat movement speed and tune up the Rage passive a little.

RozairJan 25, 20171 votes

Your right. The only champions that use nashor tooth is Diana and azir though. Both could use a small buff.

Elite4RunnerJan 25, 20171 votes

Personally, I would much rather see Stinger give something like ~~on-hit~~ mana refund.

Something small like 5-10 mana ~~on hit.~~

Edit: Scratch the on-hit, make it on-attack so that it benefits Azir.

TyrekGoldenspearJan 25, 20171 votes

It still wouldn't benefit Azir unless the on-attack implies activating with spell effects, like Rylais.

Elite4RunnerJan 25, 20171 votes

If you look at his LolWiki page under the Sand Soldiers tab toward the bottom of the page you will see that it says

Control type Controlled by Azir's attack commands

TyrekGoldenspearJan 25, 20171 votes

Yes they are, but they apply spell effects.

On hit effects and effects of that nature do not effect the sand soldiers attacks.

This is why Azir doesn't build rageblade.

RozairJan 25, 20171 votes

It would have to be beneficial to both triforce and nashor tooth. That might be a bit over the top for champions like irrelia ect.

Elite4RunnerJan 26, 20171 votes

Which is why I said on-attack.

Controlling the Sand Soldiers with an attack action would be what triggers the refund, not the way that attack applies damage or effects to the target.

For example, the Eternity passive from Catalyst of Aeons, and the Awe passive from Tear of the Goddess heal / refund mana respectively based on the amount of mana consumed, regardless of the effect of the spell or how it influences the target.

FriusJan 25, 20171 votes

item 3115 has no MS

QuephaJan 26, 20171 votes

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As of now the movement speed on triforce comes from nowhere.

Phage.

NodirjonSattarovJan 26, 20171 votes

Possibly the combination cost which is ~377 I believe? Cost of boots

LordGeovanniJan 26, 20171 votes

mages dont need more surviability they are tough enough to catch for being ranged and high damage while spamming spell.

CatSithJan 26, 20172 votes

Nashers arent for ranged mages its for melee mages who fight in the frontlines. The only Ranged Mage that uses it is azir.

RozairJan 26, 20171 votes

Think of Diana

DunkinNoobsJan 26, 20171 votes

You're right; Kayle isn't quite OP enough yet. Let's buff Nashors.

RozairJan 26, 20171 votes

No your right I completely forgot about kayle. Still I think the item itself could use a buff. Kayle is almost impossible to balence due to the nature of her kit.