I just want to know if this is fair?

sobi999·Jan 22, 2017·11 votes·937 views

Is it fair your top laner feeds to yasuo or fiora or mid feeds to leblanc and the whole team has to suffer? Is it fair that with only few more kills some champs can 1v5 the whole team? Do i need to be in high elo to expect no one to feed? This gets so boring when all you can do is watch your allies die because they fed only one champ and it doesnt has to be 20+ kills just 3-4 more kills than the rest of you and the enemy is fed, even worse if it's fiora or yasuo etc (champs that carry hard once ahead).

11 Comments

Asayake 5150glowJan 22, 20173 votes

Fiora can't 1v5 unless you are shit. Especially if she's only a few kills up. Of course a 7/0 Fiora is gonna kill your mid laner when you send them up there, and then your jungler, especially if they aren't together.

A good Fiora won't stick around when she feels/sees that multiple people are coming - she'll outrotate you and go kill the other two champions on the other side of the map.

Plus, we gotta carry our bronze games somehow: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2403579052/209645298?tab=overview http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2403583120/209645298?tab=overview

sobi999Jan 22, 20172 votes

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Fiora can't 1v5 unless you are shit. Especially if she's only a few kills up. Of course a 7/0 Fiora is gonna kill your mid laner when you send them up there, and then your jungler, especially if they aren't together.

A good Fiora won't stick around when she feels/sees that multiple people are coming - she'll outrotate you and go kill the other two champions on the other side of the map.

Plus, we gotta carry our bronze games somehow: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2403579052/209645298?tab=overview http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2403583120/209645298?tab=overview

A fed fiora can very easily do it. In the Championship i heard the commentators say that as well. I also had a match with a fiora with 5 kills (myslef 2 kills as a supp) and she got quadra. Obviously she didn't tank the 5 of us, but once she dives in she can kill 1 fast, then dive to the next and etc and in the same way yasuo can't tank damage from 5 champs at the same time. It's how they are designed which would be fine if they didn't 2 shot you once fed.

The issue is how fast they get fed compared to other champs. If you disagree please opine.

Asayake 5150glowJan 22, 20171 votes

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A fed fiora can very easily do it. In the Championship i heard the commentators say that as well. I also had a match with a fiora with 5 kills (myslef 2 kills as a supp) and she got quadra. Obviously she didn't tank the 5 of us, but once she dives in she can kill 1 fast, then dive to the next and etc and in the same way yasuo can't tank damage from 5 champs at the same time. It's how they are designed which would be fine if they didn't 2 shot you once fed.

The issue is how fast they get fed compared to other champs. If you disagree please opine.

Keyword: Fed.

What you don't seem to realize... is that Fiora is a carry. She's also a draintank, making her very hard to kill when ahead.

Point is, a good Fiora will try to kite you around and split you up into 5 different 1v1's (or 2 different 2v2's and one 1v1). If you are coordinated and can stick together and still catch her, she's not gonna do shit.

Fiora can't exactly 'dive to the next', with her Q only getting a 2 second CD with 40% cdr at max rank, and hell - why did you let her get into Q range? Anyway, those 2 seconds are plenty to CC and kill her, due to Riposte lasting .75 seconds. Try CC'ing her when she's in the middle of killing her first target.

sobi999Jan 22, 20172 votes

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Keyword: Fed.

What you don't seem to realize... is that Fiora is a carry. She's also a draintank, making her very hard to kill when ahead.

Point is, a good Fiora will try to kite you around and split you up into 5 different 1v1's (or 2 different 2v2's and one 1v1). If you are coordinated and can stick together and still catch her, she's not gonna do shit.

Fiora can't exactly 'dive to the next', with her Q only getting a 2 second CD with 40% cdr at max rank, and hell - why did you let her get into Q range? Anyway, those 2 seconds are plenty to CC and kill her, due to Riposte lasting .75 seconds. Try CC'ing her when she's in the middle of killing her first target.

I am not a pro by any means and i agree i make mistakes but it doesn't negate the fact how strong fiora is once ahead/fed. It literally took her 3-4 more kills. Now give those 3-4 more kills to teemo and let's see how many he can take down with his W (speed boost).

Asayake 5150glowJan 22, 20171 votes

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I am not a pro by any means and i agree i make mistakes but it doesn't negate the fact how strong fiora is once ahead/fed. It literally took her 3-4 more kills. Now give those 3-4 more kills to teemo and let's see how many he can take down with his W (speed boost).

Yeah, I mean, give any carry 3-4 kills and of course they'll be stronger than you. Fiora has a lot of outplay potential, as well as a lot of damage flat out (she's not quite as difficult as Yasuo/Riven), but her teamfighting when not ahead, is... utterly abysmal.

Give those 3-4 kills to Teemo and your top laner will have ragequit. Then you'll step on a shroom in the bot lane bushes and lose 3/4 of your health. :P

I guess part of the problem is that it's incredibly difficult to itemize against a Fiora - to borrow a Fiora main's words - any defensive items bought against Fiora are like a bandaid. It'll stop her for a few minutes, at best. This is due to Fiora's ability to duel anyone and anything, provided they aren't a hard counter (Pantheon) or she isn't behind.

sobi999Jan 22, 20171 votes

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Yeah, I mean, give any carry 3-4 kills and of course they'll be stronger than you. Fiora has a lot of outplay potential, as well as a lot of damage flat out (she's not quite as difficult as Yasuo/Riven), but her teamfighting when not ahead, is... utterly abysmal.

Give those 3-4 kills to Teemo and your top laner will have ragequit. Then you'll step on a shroom in the bot lane bushes and lose 3/4 of your health. :P

I guess part of the problem is that it's incredibly difficult to itemize against a Fiora - to borrow a Fiora main's words - any defensive items bought against Fiora are like a bandaid. It'll stop her for a few minutes, at best. This is due to Fiora's ability to duel anyone and anything, provided they aren't a hard counter (Pantheon) or she isn't behind.

I see the point you're making but it's literally unenjoyable when i try my best at bot lane and a top laner feeds his ass off. I mean this scaling system should not introduce toxic to the game because the whole fkn game every one is saying " GG you fed fiora/yas" and etc and am like STFU and don't 1v1 them :/

Lel that teemo joke was good but i can't be bothered going bot lane just to throw mushrooms :D Hell if anything, teemo needs a buff going for him. Poor guy gets stomped so bad these days.

MoetaroJan 22, 20172 votes

This is obviously not fair. And one of the reason why this game is SOOOOOO toxic.

Tails9016Jan 23, 20172 votes

3-4 kills? give a Fizz or Leblanc first blood and their team has already won.

Rebel 986Jan 22, 20171 votes

Umm ban yas ez fix

DunkinNoobsJan 22, 20171 votes

Considering how hard a feeding bot lane fucks over everyone else; it's absolutely fair.

RocketRelmJan 23, 20171 votes

I was in plat 2 last season, and will be again as soon as ranked stops being such a snowball shitshow that I can be arsed to play it again. I can confirm; your top laner will still feed 0 5 0 because playing from behind is hard.