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Can we look at syndra now?

sobi999·3/16/2019, 9:33:44 PM·7 votes·8,346 views

She is sitting with a 46.61% winrate and 2.90% playrate, positioned 46/48. This is in Korea plat + as of today. Overall in all elo's she sits with 47% playrate with a very miniscule playrate.

Having a both low winrate and playrate shows that even the mains are not performing well on this champ. In addition, her main position is in mid whereas ryze and kayle (below her) can be played top as well. Sure she is used in LCS and pro play but we all know that pro play doesn't follow the same pattern as even challengers.

Long story short, I just wanted to point out that Syndra's passive is useless until lvl 18 and most games don't even last that long. Making it so that each one of her ability is upgraded at 6/11/16/18 would help her if not make her viable.

I've been playing a decent amount of syndra in bot games to practice her, and she seems real fun. It's a shame that playing her in a real game would be costly to my team mates.

25 Comments

Dope Solo3/16/2019, 9:59:02 PM15 votes

Sure, if her name is Zed.

Troy2426213/17/2019, 1:43:21 AM4 votes

No champion deserves to have a 46% win rate, but Syndra is a tricky one because she combines damage with hard CC, which means when she's too strong, she can just click on you.

What exactly were you hoping happens out of curiosity?

The thigh guy3/17/2019, 5:33:09 AM3 votes

She was gutted because the assassin and bruiser overlord couldn’t get on her as easily as other control mages.

Those two champion classes basically dictate this game now.

SaxophoneGod3/16/2019, 9:40:23 PM3 votes

im a D4 syndra main, and the reason she isn't good right now isnt because of her passive. its because shes an immobile mage and people dont know how to use her stun, which is her only form of cc. Her W only slows and E has a massive cooldown. There is a secret to her E but I will let you figure it out

Sir Rouge3/17/2019, 3:58:52 AM2 votes

She has many W bugs and one of her W mechanic got removed last patch (by accident?, it seems) without being mentionned in the patch notes.

It seems Riot is unaware of this (they don't care about Syndra) but it seems very difficult to let them know. The balance team doesn't read these posts so no clue how to let them know.

Ahris3/17/2019, 1:34:44 AM2 votes

Syndra is fine. She is clearly viable. Her passive gives her immense amount of power to all of her abilities.

She is in WAY better spot than ahri.

0 Hogapu3/17/2019, 7:45:12 AM2 votes

One light way to help her out would be reducing her mana costs, especially late game. She's supposed to spam qs to get off a good combo, but shes reliant on blue (or else u need Seraphs and Manaflow Band)

I don't think she's super far from being great, and no one wants her to be over buffed.

Other idea : make her W go faster when she grabs a ball instead of anything

l MrD l3/17/2019, 12:51:03 AM1 votes

i dont think its her damage at all ... she one shots easily and has a good laning but i feel like thats what she is ... just a standard burst mage compared to someone like Zoe who offers her W too ... neeko a fat AOE damaging stun and veigar with his walls ... i feel like syndra just feels inferior

Jalesom3/23/2019, 2:46:59 PM1 votes

Syndra is a really fun and challenging champ and it is good to hear people still want to pick her up. That beings said, positioning is more important than her entire kit. Once you learn that, she is a breeze and will help you with positioning on every other champ you play.

I only want to play Syndra in SR. For the last year though, I've played only ARAM's because of her bugs and the fact she can now only 1v1. With all the mobility champs and tanks, she can no longer carry a game by herself. I got frustrated of dominating my lane and every other lane feeding and then forcing surrender.

Also, she is buggy even in the most basic of ways. For instance her W first cast, gold throw range ring, and W second cast all have slightly different ranges when they should all be the same. W does not work properly when trying to pick up spheres outside of range. She gets stuck on minions and terrain. The stutter bug still happens from time to time. And the list goes on.

In the end though I suggest you pick her up and give her a try. Fun champ!

Thefrostyviking3/17/2019, 9:55:34 AM1 votes

I stalk the Syndra reddit from time time and the guys there really dont seem to favor the idea of any big buffs, they seem to wana keep her down low-ish.

But someone mentioned something about reverting a nerf to her W radius and at least a few agreed to that idea, and a bug about suddenly being unable to grab a flying Q-E spehere with W was mentioned.

Psyrix3/17/2019, 8:41:29 PM1 votes

Syndra’s real problems lay in her bugs... sort them out then worry about “buffs” after... Cuz it’s liekly her winrate would actually rise once those bugfixes are through.

DarkTree13/17/2019, 1:05:06 AM1 votes

unpopular and, once she reaches lategame, can usually 100-0 an adc with ignite+r, so gets the "not fun to play against" ticket, doubly confirming her status in the trashcan.

outside of riot balance team favouritism, she's an immobile control mage who lategame scales, which don't have a history of being spectacular in this meta coughAzircough. probably a factor