Can pls Riven get some tweaks or even rework?

dEAdbUs·Jul 1, 2015·1 votes·344 views

She is just broken, and one of most picked champions for toplane even in diamond.

I heard many times "this counters Riven, that counters Riven", but can any high elos Diamond can hostly say: "this is an easiest way to beat Riven." But Rivens that I know (diamonds) quetly said to me that they can beat anything. A-n-y-t-h--i-n-g.

Real counter was only Ryze, and thats why Riven was played on mid in S3-4 and not on top. Reworked OP Ryze with chainlock was like fresh air - again Riven was hardly punished. But he was nerfed pretty fast and again Riven is free to dominate toplane.

I don't know how Riven should be tweaked, but I understand why Riven isn't nerfed yet - because she has not perfect design and she can be only or broken, or useless.

9 Comments

TeemoJenkinsJul 1, 20152 votes

http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=champion-winrate&range=monthly&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=diamond Did anyone else click on that link and see Riven absent, but Wukong and Tryndamere there?

dEAdbUsJul 1, 20151 votes

Even together they have much less pickrate than Riven, while both have just 0.5% higher winrate than Riven.

TeemoJenkinsJul 1, 20152 votes

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Even together they have much less pickrate than Riven, while both have just 0.5% higher winrate than Riven.

So... your numbers you're citing as the Source by which you're leading to a conclusion that she needs changes are in fact... inaccurate so this is all based on your opinion that Riven is over powered and based on your judgement Riot should Nerf?
Any significant CC ruins Riven. I was in a game with a FED Riven... late game she counted for nothing. Our Trynd fed that hell out of her in lane, late game he literally three shot her... because he's Tyrndamere.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1871601681/202703050?tab=overview

Our Gnar was dc'd for 10 minutes in this game... still won, because we out played.

dEAdbUsJul 1, 20151 votes

Significant CC ruins any champ - its not an argument.

I showed you diamond statistics and you showed me Gold 5 Riven. Things that can't be properly compared.

TeemoJenkinsJul 1, 20152 votes

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Significant CC ruins any champ - its not an argument.

I showed you diamond statistics and you showed me Gold 5 Riven. Things that can't be properly compared.

http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=dEAdbUs You're a Gold 4 player, but giving you a relevant example of a Riven of your same MMR isn't comparable? /endthread.

dEAdbUsJul 1, 20151 votes

Riot balance game for high elo, but that doesn't mean that other players can't discuss higher elo games and balance. May be you don't believe in my words, but I showed numbers where WHOLE month Riven was most popular toplaner in diamond elo, and with significant success.

You showed me game and said that 21-10 Riven wasn't able to carry game. Man, she was 21-10, why she's so fed? Isn't that means she is OP? Because she can snowball very hard and same time she's one of best bullies on toplane? You won fed Riven, but does that mean you want to meet Riven in enemy team every ranked game, because she's easy to beat for you? My opinion that rest of enemy team were bad or Riven wasn't skilled enough to utilize her power and bring her team to win.

TeemoJenkinsJul 1, 20151 votes

. . . so nerf everyone else picked above her first, since that's the stat you're going with?

1 Thresh 34.36% 2 Vayne 31.81% 3 Jinx 28.43% 4 Caitlyn 22.76% 5 Leona 19.05% 6 Morgana 17.94% 7 Annie 16.98% 8 Ashe 16.79% 9 Nautilus 16.74% 10 Ezreal 16.57% 11 Sivir 16.22% 12 Janna 15.83% 13 Blitzcrank 15.63% 14 Lee Sin 15.36% 15 Alistar 14.12% 16 Riven 14.04%

dEAdbUsJul 1, 20151 votes

How many toplaners here? Just Riven? Isn't that mean she's most valuable toplaner now? This just prove my words. And there is no link for this numbers.

http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=champion-winrate&range=monthly&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=diamond

Riven has highest pick/winrate combination for toplane in diamond elo.