Why can you QSS suppresses?

Tentakill Myself··1 votes·3,555 views

Suppresses - Only 3 champions have them right now, and they are all pretty bad picks for high elo and even gold right now. Reason being is they are pretty much rendered useless if you buy a QSS. Now, I just have to ask, why can you QSS a suppress? That puts it on the same level as a snare or stun, and most stuns / snares will last longer than suppresses. You can't cleanse out of a suppress, so why does this one and only item allow you to be completely lockdown free? And why does this item build into something that is like a Reverse Zhonyas for an ADC, even when ADCs are usually the most focused? And why is it on a lower cooldown than Skarner/Malz ult? Even a Warwick ult at rank 1 can be QSSed every time it comes off cooldown.

Since I was Silver 5 and a Skarner Main last season, I think it's really unfair to give a champion a really strong lockdown ability, yet have it be easily countered by an ADC with an item that also yields 80 attack damage and 45 magic resist (Whom you're usually supposed to ult anyways). I have 3 ideas to fix this, or at least give more leniency towards Malzahar Skarner Warwick :

1: Remove the Magic Resist from QSS and give it a 180 second cooldown up from 90. It is an item that is supposed to be used if you get caught, after all, and if an ADC is getting caught every 90 seconds, they deserve to be punished. Maybe lower it to a 150 second cooldown when Merc Scimitar is bought.

2: Make it so QSS can't remove suppresses.

3: Remove QSS / Merc Scimitar completely. These items are a free cleanse summoner spell that is actually BETTER because it removes suppresses. There will still be Mikaels Crucible for people who really need to escape vs a CC heavy team.

I'd like to make one more point before this gets downvoted - Mikaels Crucible yields almost the same magic resist as a QSS, and it is almost 1000 gold more expensive. This item cannot remove suppresses and it has a 180 second cooldown. Yes, it heals and can be used on any ally, but QSS grants a lot of movespeed so its almost the same as a heal. I think removing QSS and Merc Scimitar would make supports have to build Mikaels more often and ultimately be present for a lot more teamfights VS CC heavy teams. This item right now is legitimately a free escape for an ADC who gets caught out every 90 seconds.

Please let me know what you think of these ideas below. Please don't call me retarded, stupid, etc for making this suggestion.

6 Comments

DevilishMetal7 votes

3 champions 3 champions 3 champions

Urgot item 3070

Pryotra1 votes

To be fair, QSS doesn't negate his ult like the others. He still switches places with the champ, the only thing Qss allows you is the ability to choose urgot's position coming out.

Dreadlocks2 votes

But QSS is like... The best counter play to Malz/WW, why would you remove counter play. Remember you actually have to press the QSS button for it to be effective.

Only Play Darius1 votes

Because i love it when a low health malzahar ults me, so then i break free and shoot him in the face.

Serevas1 votes

I like half of option 1. You should keep the MR because there's virtually zero incentive to buy it otherwise unless you make it cheaper. I say keep the MR, go with your CD suggestion, and make the upgrade a 120 second CD.

I agree fully that if an ADC gets caught out every 90 seconds they deserve to suffer, but there are those times where the ADC does not get caught out and still gets hit with the suppress. Times like when you have WW or Skarner, flanking into your back ranks through the jungle and flashing onto you for the ult. Or you could be say....Zed, who has to get up in the enemy team's face in order to do anything anyway.

Don't get me wrong, I love playing Malzahar, and those few times when people are actually smart enough to get QSS, it's quite irritating, but they spent money on an item that is really only useful for that so I'll let them have it as my ult is up again before their QSS is.

femmé1 votes

well it might only be a low number of champs but there is no other way to counter suppression other than a qss

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