Well there is this cool 'Store Credit' rune that I find really interesting. However what might be even better if added to the game, is allowing champions to leave gold in the fountain for other to use, maybe even give it some interest over time spent unused. I think all strategy games that include a monetary value allow trading it within teammates, I don't know why LoL doesn't.
Jo0o3 votesSupports already give as many kills away to their carries as possible, while avoiding farming. I'd hate to live in a world where they're also expected to donate constantly to their teammates. Can you imagine the "Support" role turning into which player can stay alive while collecting ambient gold on zero items the longest? Boots plus Sightstone, done forever! Ugh.
The Cane Master1 votesSupports already give as many kills away to their carries as possible, while avoiding farming. I'd hate to live in a world where they're also expected to donate constantly to their teammates. Can you imagine the "Support" role turning into which player can stay alive while collecting ambient gold on zero items the longest? Boots plus Sightstone, done forever! Ugh.
Supports with low damage and high utility 
and such are already trash tier at. Also it won't be 'expected' from anyone to donate gold, also there could be a scaling cap over time elapsed.
Jo0o3 votesBoth of those lovely ladies are at 52-53% win rate currently. Trash tier?
And yes, they'd be expected, up to any established cap. That's how the meta would shift. Support is a role that intentionally gimps itself in order to better the team's chances of winning, by allowing others to farm and get fed in lieu of themselves. The possibility of donating gold would translate quickly to the expectation that supports would shift all possible funds to their carries, up to full build.
The Cane Master1 votesBoth of those lovely ladies are at 52-53% win rate currently. Trash tier?
And yes, they'd be expected, up to any established cap. That's how the meta would shift. Support is a role that intentionally gimps itself in order to better the team's chances of winning, by allowing others to farm and get fed in lieu of themselves. The possibility of donating gold would translate quickly to the expectation that supports would shift all possible funds to their carries, up to full build.
Those lovely ladies have 0% competitive pick rate, I call that trash tier (only somewhat good in silver solo queue).
Jo0o3 votesI was already going off Plat+ ratings. In Diamond+, they're still both above 50% win rate, though Soraka has low popularity. Janna is 15th most popular champ overall at that level, actually.
I must say, though, I'm not a fan of how you debate topics. You're picking the least relevant thing about what I'm trying to say and needling at it. I addressed your main point about Store Credit with what I believe to be well-reasoned skepticism, but you'd rather poke at some minor thing I mentioned in passing than actually addressing the main point of YOUR THREAD.
The Cane Master1 votesActually Janna is shit in competitive, that's what you are starting off your argument with and it doesn't stand. Non LCS games = irrelevant measure to the champion's true power. That is why Riot has always been balancing the meta by looking at what pros (ab)use, not by looking at solo queue data.
Jo0o3 votesIf you're just going to blindly straw man me into oblivion then we have nothing more to discuss. Your idea sucks.
Ap Mid Burst1 votesLCS is a completely different game from Soloque, even challenger soloque. Janna is good in high elo soloque, and not used in competitive.
The Cane Master1 votesMaybe, but professional matches determine the true power of a champion, that is why Master Yi is never going to be played professionally while being used by boosters for noob-slaying. This doesn't mean that Master Yi is a good champion.
Paquay2 votes0 in competitive? I'm guessing you don't watch any competitive matches.
The Cane Master1 votes0 in competitive? I'm guessing you don't watch any competitive matches.
I have, link me the games when they were picked recently.
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I have, link me the games when they were picked recently.
http://www.gamesoflegends.com/champion/stats.php?id=33&tournament=NA%20LCS%20Spring%202017
Oh snap, guess you don't watch enough competitive then. How about you take that downvote back? ;)
The Cane Master1 voteshttp://www.gamesoflegends.com/champion/stats.php?id=33&tournament=NA%20LCS%20Spring%202017
Oh snap, guess you don't watch enough competitive then. How about you take that downvote back? ;)
Oh snap, you've just linked Janna and Soraka picks since the beginning of time. However, on these links you'll see that Soraka and Janna were picked only once each in LCS summer split:
http://www.gamesoflegends.com/champion/stats.php?id=86&season=S7&split=Summer
http://www.gamesoflegends.com/champion/stats.php?id=33&tournament=ALL&season=S7&split=Summer
So yes, they are trash tier.
Paquay1 votesOh, I'm sorry you had a tough time using the drop down boxes. And the summer split is 4 weeks in. Look at spring split as well. Unless you consider a couple of months sooo long ago.
They may not be picked often, but they're picked more than a lot of other champions.
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Janna
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Soraka
Looks like the pros use them every day. I guess if you were better you could learn to use them as well.
The Cane Master1 votesLook at spring split as well. Unless you consider a couple of months sooo long ago.
Yes, couple of months shifts 10+ champions in and out of meta, as well as macro game and strategy. Many champions who were used in spring split are nowhere to be found now, Janna and Soraka are just some of these.
Ralanr2 votesBecause it would so much easier to come back from being behind?
OopsSheWas121 votesIs that a problem?
Ralanr1 votesIt drastically reduces the effort you put into your snowball.
Like, if I shut down the enemy adc as the jungler all lane, but suddenly they come back faster because their snowballing top laner shared gold, then my ability to shut them down was pointless.
The Cane Master1 votesIs that a problem?
Is it a problem in counter strike when someone buys a whole gun and drops it for one of his teammates?
The Cane Master1 votesBecause it would so much easier to come back from being behind?
I've been playing since season 2, and now in season 7 the games are more snowbally than ever. Furthermore, games can easily be ended already with a Rift Herald taken, let alone Baron at sub 25 minutes. Riot added surrender vote to 15 minutes for a reason.
KoKoboto2 votesAt least it teaches people about how credit works kinda. Currently 18 and still have very limited knowledge on the whole system, too busy with league and school to sit down and look at credit.
The Cane Master1 votesAt least it teaches people about how credit works kinda. Currently 18 and still have very limited knowledge on the whole system, too busy with league and school to sit down and look at credit.
In my country, kids learn about credit at 12-13 years of age, god bless I'm not a US citizen.
KoKoboto1 votesI don't live in the US
The Cane Master1 votesWell that's the point, how much gold can the opposing top accrue and leave behind and maintain their lead?