Is Irelia a late game champion?

There's 0 chance you're actually gonna dodge "every" E. And it only takes one to burst someone down to at least 50% health.

Em no. I m not gonna lie, i havent laned a lot against irelia. However in my 2 or 3 times that i have i was a squishy immobile mage. And at least once i got hit by her e. I didnt lose 50% of my hp. What you are saying is a big exaggeration.

The "priming" of it is fast af (0.25s, the exact same as average human reaction time) so in melee range it's more on the side of Irelia missing it than you dodging it

Em so? Most melee champs (fighters rather) can 1v1 her with ease. She being able to use her e so fast isnt something op or anything.

Also the damage reduction is actually 50% unlike what Atmosphere said.

I know its exact number. And if you are trying to say that it should scale up to 50% then yeah, im with you. I dont like spells that you dont rank up because they dont gain anything apart base dmg and a reduce to cd.

I don't think we can really compare hers to Warwick's though since they serve different kits

Well he made it sound like her defensive steroid is op or something, when in reality there is a champ that can move freely aa and cast abilities while he takes reduce damage. Also both of them are divers (officially).

but Irelia's does have the plus of ignoring CC during the channel.

More like it cant be interrupted. If her w expires and there is still a hard cc, she will be affected. For example irelia gets hit by xerath's e and after a milisecond irelia cancels her w. Irelia would be still stunned.

As much as I agree with this, I don't know why everyone says "____ is immune to cc during the channel," when it's just the aura/effect around them that doesn't get cancelled

That's like saying Dr. Mundo is immune to cc during his ult because cc doesn't make the ult stop

For the first part, yes, I would nerf her Q damage and/or scaling. The whole point of her E and R allowing for Q resets is to ensure she can stick to a target as long as she lands her abilities. One Q shouldn't be a death sentence; Irelia should have to land full combos to put kill pressure on. As for the W, its only OP because Irelia already does so much. Her W making her extremely tanky (even if it does root her) is just insult to injury for her kit. If her damage got tuned down, her W would be fine, as it would be a fallback for when she misses a combo and needs to buy time.

Edit: Wrong reply thread, my bad

Irelia is a late game scaling champion that has the early all in potential of someone like Talon.

Fair enough. But how do you propose to change it? Currently irelia is on the thin line between playable and unplayable. They cant nerf her q damage (the bonus on the minions excluded) because it is already low (5-85 + 60% ad). Her w is a one point ability. Its her only defensive steroid that unlike others ROOTS HER. Her e deals meh damage and has meh cc duration, they can nerf her e range (again) but this wont solve a single thing. People will just do a fast e close range. They cant increase the arm time because then she would be literally unplayable (go play morgana or someone with slow skillshots vs someone that has mobility either through high movement speed or dashes). Lastly her ulti number wise is fine. The cc is fine. The range and width are a bit weird, i would personally prefer if it was a bit thinner but w/e.

So what exactly do you want to do to her?

Her damage reduction is OP, as it literally negates half of any incoming damage, which can save her life when she makes a late game mistake. "Oh look at this other similar ability!" doesn't justify anything. Its just whataboutism and it's annoying.

But it does. You are screaming that her w is op, when there is one that has damage reduction, while he can move cast spells and aa freely. You are literally nitpicking. What exactly makes hers op but not warwick's? If she was building ap i would understand. But she doesnt. And before you scream " DIFFERENT KITS" both of them are fighters under the divers classification. Their niches are different but they have similarities.

Ashe strong early? She cant fight at all!

As long as the enemy dont let her poke them down with auto´s and W´s and just back off whenever she activates Q (slow basically has no effect early on) then she is utterly useless in terms of fighting capacity.

Whats more if someone engages when she has no stacks on her Q ready then she deals nearly no damage at all.

She has a ton of utility and decent range, she pays for this with reduced damage, no mobility and burst.

Strong early? She isnt strong, she is safe, a major difference.

Its only at lvl 6 she becomes threatening together with her support.

acually, ashe is better late game, due to her attack speed build, you are able to stack your q faster for the active.