After all, bruisers get 
that gives
Literally every stat a AD bruiser could want all for a low cost. And people seem to think this is balanced.
Lets give ADCs a perfect item and watch the double standards roll in.
Zero Skill Tank2 votesinb4 you get downvoted to hell by members of boards "melee vs ranged" jerking circle, I assure you that everyone sane notices that Black Cleaver's overly general shape is the leading cause of tank itemization issues.
fuffychan1 votesoverly general shape?
Can you elaborate?
SaltyKracka5 votesEvery champion who wants to build AD and isn't an ADC builds it.
There are no drawbacks to building it, or even rushing it. It has no counters, either in build or playstyle.
It's too good at too many things for too many champions, and as such has warped the game around its existence.
WoonStruck1 votesKinda like Morello's.
SaltyKracka1 votesOnly kinda. Remember, manaless AP champs exist.
But yeah, Morello's and Athene's Unholy Grail before it have been a problematic standard for mages, who above all else want their goddamn mana sustain.
WoonStruck1 votesI just wish rushes and build paths had pros/cons again.
Everyone getting exactly what they want right away is making the game cancer.
fuffychan1 votesBlame Riot for making AP champs reliant on mana while AD champs 
can buy whatever they want
fuffychan1 votesThats exactly the point I was trying to make with this thread.
And people never call this item out for being too powerful. The complaints only come when ADCs "abuse" it.
Thank you. Take my +1
Zero Skill Tank2 votesSee there are several boards members playing melee champion who spam the boards with 4-5 adc hate threads per day, as they are still can't get over Graves and Quinn toplane meta from a year ago.
It's dumb, but they gathered quite a following and now even suggesting that LoL isn't about ADC's oppressing poor fighters 24/7 gets you only hate.
fuffychan1 votesI am aware of that. ADC hate has been going on since the beginning of LoL, and always from players of the most overpowered class in the game.
Supports, mages, and junglers laugh at ADCs and will all agree they are free food.
WoonStruck3 votesIts an overly general axe.
Zero Skill Tank3 votesSince BC gives almost everything, any fighter that can build it will build it without sacrificing anything. We can't have balanced tank itemization when better half of fighters builds - or even rushes - the best tank shredding item in the game, they should use up a slot on this.
In current situation tanks either are strong enough to deal with BC users - which means they are bullshit, because literally everyone else is worse at combating fights than BC users, or they are not - which means they are useless, because since BC gives everything there is absolutely no reason for a fighter not to buy it.
Big Lincoln2 votesgee, a class that doesn't get to build many damage items due to the nature of their kits having an item that gives them a lot of what they want?
totally comparable to the class that gets to build full damage every game
fuffychan3 votes"Gets to"? ADCs deal zero damage unless they have 3 or 4 items. A Darius gets to buy one and 5 tank items and deal the most damage in the game.
Big Lincoln4 votesADCs deal zero damage unless they have 3 or 4 items.
if they're fucking garbage at the game, sure
A Darius gets to buy one
Because Darius can't afford to build more damage, because Darius has to walk into the middle of the fight and needs 4 items for tank slots so he doesn't get popped instantly.
fuffychan3 votesI suggest you build 
as if she was 
and see how much damage you deal.
Im waiting for the results.
Eedat2 votesJust build then lmao. What are you complaining about? You can use the item too
Critmaster Garen2 votessure, as soon as bruisers get an item that gives them 450 to 700 auto attack range.
FalconPawwwwnch2 votesYa cleaver is OP
Although I wouldn't call the HP massive, it's 50 more than trinity force lmao
Borkahn1 votesNo because on an adc that would be overpowered. Where as a bruiser still can be kited easily.
fuffychan3 votesAnd ADC are still killed easily. Do you think 
cares if an ADC has this item or not?
Borkahn1 votesFor Kha, simply stay near minons or other champions and he loses alot of damage. As for Rengar, he rarely shows up in my games...and even when he does, I usually run through him.
fuffychan3 votesMy thread is not discussing the merits of .
is broken af. Thats it.
Borkahn1 votesAnd ADC are still killed easily. Do you think
Oh....it's not? And no it is not broken. You are unranked. You haven't played ranked hardly at all. So it makes sense that you don't know how to fight against certain items. BC is not broken. Try again
fuffychan1 votesI have no legitimate argument so Im going to look up this guys rank
Bet you voted for bernie sanders
Borkahn3 votesSo you take my words and change them around....good job....and no I didn't vote Bernie. I think he is a communist asshole feeding into the give me generation. Hillary is a slum who would sale out to anyone that gives her money and wouldn't care for the troops. And Donald is pretty much what Donald is always known for being.
Now back to the topic at hand. Black Cleaver takes a big chunk of change. 3500 to be exact. I've seen countless top laners rush it and then die to someone with a Sunfire and a Sheen. It's not all the hype you make it be. This thing called peel protects adcs from the bruiser likes. So if a bruiser should land on top of adc, they better have the power to down them. You hate it because you can't combat it therefore it must be op. Do some research, understand when you are just plain wrong, and take responsibility for your own poor play. I got up to gold last season because I stopped Bitching, moaning, and whining about shit being op because in reality, it was not op, it was simply something I didn't comprehend how to counter. Now I research. I beat things that should beat the hell out of me. It's because I actually pay attention. Now take your sorry ass excuse for being such a poor summoner away from this argument, because all you are doing is showing the people that have even a slight bit of knowledge about how to combat various builds in this game that you have no freaking clue what you are doing.
Done with this conversation because I'm arguing with an idiotic brick wall. I have more important things to attend to than argue with someone who hasn't the slightest idea what they are talking about.
fuffychan1 votesholy tl;dr