So PBE Ashe looks absolutely beautiful. Fix boring things, accentuate nice things, add a steroid...

JustMyBassCannon·Apr 30, 2015·4 votes·711 views

...and Varus has joined Twitch in the Marksman Crying Corner.

16 Comments

The5lackerApr 30, 20153 votes

Hey, Twitch had some time in the lime light, and I don't think he's quite as bad as people make him out to be.

Varus just...poor guy needs a rework bad. Visual update, kit tweaks, perhaps an updated voiceover. The works. Not to the same degree as Karthus or Sion, but definitely a Sejuani-level retune.

JustMyBassCannonApr 30, 20151 votes

The best amalgamation of ideas I've heard for a Varus rework--things I've pulled from other peoples' ideas--is basically this; move Blight to passive, give him a 4th active non-steroid spell, and then make Blight procs do something based on which spell ate the stacks (possibly requiring max stacks to work). Give him more utility and self-synergy, and make his AS steroid attached to something less retarded, like his Q.

The5lackerApr 30, 20151 votes

I don't think it needs to be quite that complex, nor do I think Varus needs to not have an active steroid. Binding his AS boost to a chargeable harassment/execution spell seems...counterintuitive.

I'd much rather Varus start to get more of a focus on this "Living avatar of vengeance" thing he's got going on. Him and Kalista, despite screaming "VENGEANCE" at the top of their lungs, don't really have...much to do with it.

JustMyBassCannonApr 30, 20151 votes

While it's more complex, it's an attempt to use mechanic synergy for playstyle simplicity. I'll agree that an AS bonus on Q does sound counter-intuitive, though.

UberAffeApr 30, 20151 votes

They'll get their turn eventually

Pucking PurrfectApr 30, 20152 votes

A question comes to mind!

WHEN?

JustMyBassCannonApr 30, 20151 votes

Soon™

Meep ManApr 30, 20151 votes

Twitch needs his entire kit reworked except for his Q and maybe R to be all about the true damage passive. There is some really interesting possibilities with it, and it's weird to make the passive only be about getting stacks for E for the most part.

JustMyBassCannonApr 30, 20151 votes

That's basically what I'd like to see. W changed to something actually offensively useful, and given scaling based on his poison stacks. Also make Expun--Contaminate less pathetic. And reduce the ungodly delay on his Q.

Critmaster GarenApr 30, 20151 votes

i dont think this will make ashe stronger than varus or twitch.

still waiting for meaningful nerfs to jinx.

also, both. varus and twitch have clear strengths.

JustMyBassCannonApr 30, 20151 votes

It will make her much more usable.

Think of it like this. You can press down, down-forward, forward, B and shoot a fireball, or you can press back, back-down, down, back, back-down, down, B to shoot the same fireball.

Which are you going to use?

Jinx is actually fine, people need to be brought to her level instead.

Varus and Twitch have clear, but needlessly specific strengths.

KingsgraveApr 30, 20151 votes

Varus needs his W to be his passive and his new W to be a skillshot silence

JustMyBassCannonMay 1, 20151 votes

The first one, I absolutely agree. The second is up for debate, but I'd enjoy that.

VenowolfApr 30, 20151 votes

Varus need a rework his Q ult and E can stay, but the other part of the kit need new changes to turn him into a more interactive champion.

RebonackMay 1, 20151 votes

Make it so his auto-attacks proc 3-stacks of Blight when he's in Living Vengeance mode after offing an enemy champion. It would give him two distinct phases to team fights. Fishing for kills with his skill and opening up a can after reeling one in.

ProfDrDeathMay 1, 20151 votes

Playing on the retribution/Vengeance theme:

Steroid/bonus effect of some kind. Stronger when attacking champions that recently attacked an allied champion. Even stronger when attacking champions that recently contributed to a kill on an allied champion (got a kill/assist in the last X seconds?). Additionally, this strengthening effect also happens when Varus attacks the champion who killed him last.

Just putting this idea out here.