New Rank system sounds good but is open to so much abuse.

5050BS··11 votes·7,624 views

At first I really liked the idea of role ranks because it is taking off role and autofiled crap.

BUT then I was thinking on how Smurfs will abuse it.

Mid Diamond player Ques as Bronze Top. Champ select he is placed in top and so enemy and team is matched as Bronze. He says 'Hey mid Im Diamond mid let me mid and we win" Mid laner "Oh ok Im Gold Top so thats great"

Team stomps end of story.

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haaaaaaalp8 votes

And this is different from someone making a smurf now how exactly?

A diamond account isn't going to go into bronze elo top lane. Remember, all of the individual elos next seaon will be based off of where the account finishes this season. The only way for a diamond player to play in bronze in the new system is to get a smurf and tank the mmr and that is something people can already do.

5050BS3 votes

Remember, all of the individual elos next seaon will be based off of where the account finishes this season.

That is not how I read it.

Each Role rank is based off last season. The whole point was that if you are new to a Role you are not placed in the same rank as to where you are your best.

haaaaaaalp2 votes

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That is not how I read it.

Each Role rank is based off last season. The whole point was that if you are new to a Role you are not placed in the same rank as to where you are your best.

You only have one ranking for solo/duo this season so it will serve as the seed to all 5 roles next season. There is no mmr by rank this season so riot has nothing to pull from besides your main mmr.

The Sword Saint2 votes

Riot has stated that from their data most people are withing 3 divisions or so of skill with all roles, as most of what goes into performance is actually fundamentals and overall game knowledge and sense.

Catsix3 votes

Riot is aware of this potential exploit and has plenty of time to consider it and defeat it before the idea even hits PBE. If by then there is no talk of how this will be resolved, then I'd begin to become concerned. But, until then, have faith - Riot knows of these exploits and will find a way to resolve it.

IainG101 votes

And they did specifically state (at least in the video, although I believe the notes are just a transcript of said video anyway) that they are already considering the problem of role-swapping in the new system.

MrHaZeYo2 votes

I imagine they will try to think of a way to stop that from happening.

5050BS3 votes

How? They cant stop you from picking any champ. They cant stop you from chatting in champ select.

What would be more of a thing is Rank Per CHAMPION.

Im a Gold Swain but a Wood Yasuo. Now I can take Swain anywhere and play Gold and I can take Yasuo anywhere and play Wood.

MrHaZeYo1 votes

Well, they could stop you from picking certain champs and they could stop you from talking in champ select. They won;t, but they could.

I have no idea honestly, but they have what 6-10 months to figure it out.

remakoro1 votes

stopping people from picking certain champions is the most retarded idea possible. Even if you forget that its literally forcing the meta in the worst way possible. I dont play adc at all but i have most of the purchased... Only for swapping with ADC as im playing support and they sometimes ask me to pick ADC for them. You wont be even able to secure high priority picks or take some time to pick later in order to counter your laner if they force such bullshit.

AetherArising1 votes

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How? They cant stop you from picking any champ. They cant stop you from chatting in champ select.

What would be more of a thing is Rank Per CHAMPION.

Im a Gold Swain but a Wood Yasuo. Now I can take Swain anywhere and play Gold and I can take Yasuo anywhere and play Wood.

Not physically possible because you'd have to pick your champ before queuing which'd be absolutely idiotic

ChaddyFantome2 votes

those smurfs will just get MMR boosted and climb super high anyway if they truly are THAT much better anyway, will they not? That isn't much different than how things work right now.

If a Diamond level player spends any real amount of time in Bronze, they are likely bronze level in that position anyway.

remakoro2 votes

Many sites at this point capable of telling who was on which lane during the game. Pretty sure rito can do something similar. "Oh you selected mid but went top? Aint you bullshitting us?" But then again. What if i would want to swap with someone during the game or right after it started with some additional rotations later on. Due to some realizations or revelations during the game (like i cant play vs that champion at all) Whats then?

The Sword Saint2 votes

Literally the same concern that's been brought up tons of times already, and was even addressed in the announcement. Riot is aware of this and has plans both in place and in development to deal with this sort of thing smoothly.

Kissie1 votes

I thought the same thing [zombie-brand-clap]

Step Sis Lux1 votes

But i mean why someone would want to climb as top/adc/jungle/support if he is playing only mid?

KonJoo1 votes

omg i cant wait for this this sound so awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

T4underbolt1 votes

Smurfs is different thing. Eli boosters and duo boosters on the other hand will have the time of their lives.

FrostQueensPlane1 votes

it doesn't sound good at all but sure lets roleplay

AdeJBug1 votes

I was thinkin the same thing

TS Media1 votes

You know when they say ignorance is bliss...

God, if you people would read we wouldn't be in this constant back and forth. Riot already addressed this issue.

With all said and done, that doesn't excuse the fact that this new ranked system is garbage.

Hyquiem1 votes

So what can you do? I beat plats from when I was new. I hadn’t to deal with it. The fact you can’t is halarious. The new system is to balance it for the other problems where the idiot who didn’t know the role would screw and feed.

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