How to counter AD assassins and mobile bruisers?

HP Crookshanks·May 13, 2019·1 votes·1,299 views

etc.

All classes have counters except these two classes.

Armor is useless. They can't be kited because of their mobility/gap closers. They counter tanks because of their high DPS and sustain. (Armor is useless thanks to armor pen and true damage) They can't get one shot because they build some defensive items ( etc.). Armor is useless. Enchanters ( ) seem to counter them with their peeling and disengage but they are too squishy to not get one shot by them. Armor is useless.

3 Comments

DeathBurstMay 13, 20193 votes

Repeating it 3 times won't make it any more true. Armor isn't useless.

Also yes, Enchanters are a great counter, and no they shouldn't get one shot if they are playing properly.

But more generally, all those champs you complain about are designed to win 1v1. Then the trick to counter them is to simply not fight 1v1. Don't play to their strengths, play to yours. Group, force them to team-fight, and there your Tank will be 3 times more useful than their bruiser/assassin ever could.

Crispy0SnakeMay 13, 20192 votes

Firstly, any champ will be strong if they're fed.

One thing to say is that you can't bundle champions like this. People like to apply the labels "Bruiser" "Juggernaut" etc. and those labels reflect the most optimal way to play a champion that players currently know of , but at the same time the AD Assassins are best dealt with in different ways, the mobile bruisers are best dealt with in different ways. The labels don't mean much. You should consider each champion individually.

For instance into Rengar I would pick Alistar, because Alistar can Q Rengar out of his ultimate's jump, and Headbutt the Rengar away afterwards if the Rengar isn't dead already. However into Zed, another AD assassin, I find a lot of success with exhaust Soraka because I can Silence his W or R shadow when he comes through them in a team fight, I can keep allies high hp and out of his non ult lethal damage too, and if he chooses me as his primary target, I can silence his R shadow behind me so that he dies to kill the support. Alistar isn't as good into Zed because Zed can R in reaction to your Q, W in reaction to your combo etc.

You see? you've got to think about how to play around those individual champions with your champion and then put that into practice and see if it works

Chembaron YamadaMay 13, 20192 votes

Name checks out, really well explained here.

I don't play any of the champions OP has listed here except Camille, so I will just add a great counter for her. You want to make Camille's life hell? Pick Poppy, she counters her so hard it isn't even funny.

Since Camille's mobility with E is so highly telegraphed, it is insanely easy to interrupt it with Poppy's W. She will never be allowed to hit her stun on any target, which also denies her the attack speed from it and oftenly leaves her in a bad position so she gets killed easily.

Even if Camille manages to find a priority target for her ultimate, Poppy's ultimate simply send Camille flying so her cage gets cancelled. Hell, even Poppy's E can achieve this if executed well.