New Runes and Teemo

La Belle Sauvage·11/10/2017, 6:43:09 PM·1 votes·4,606 views

Note - I'm a Silver 5 player, I understand I'm low ELO but please hear me out if you're going to respond.

**TLDR - Thought I'd provide the short version first **

Teemo feels a little off as far as the Mallet/BORK/Attack Speed build path. So far I’m unable to reproduce something similar and as a result the dmg output seems low. (Typically I’d produce between 25k and north of 40k if I was playing well).

Any Teemo players who run this Mallet into Bork and attack speed care to comment and possible share their Rune Page setups?

And is there anywhere outside the client I can see my rune setup per game?

Detail:

Hi all, I’m a newish player (since early season 6) and I have to say that I like the potential of the new runes. And to get it out of the way I’m not overly concerned with how much BE is earned by match, it’s either going to be addressed and change or it won’t.

I play Teemo Top in Normals (and mostly in flex this prior season). I followed the Mallet, BORK build that IPav ran and had a lot of success with it. I ran Fever/Resolve opting for the bonus ARM/MR and the 50+ HP in the Resolve Tree too, with the idea of taking a lot of attack speed. I think this is fairly standard, but again I ran an off meta rune page. I ran HP/LVL yellows (somewhat standard) Full Attack Speed Reds and Quints, and all AP blues.

I was very comfortable with this setup in all matchups. Not to say I won them all or it was always easy. However, if I lost, I lost because I failed at something, or simply was outplayed. I wasn’t losing because of my setup or my item build.

I realize this is low for Teemo, but most of the time I averaged between 25K dmg if I played okay and north of 40K dmg if I played well. I concede his most efficient build is full AP, with different Rune page- but my goal wasn’t damaged. I just mention here to underscore my current issue.

My current issue is I have yet to come close to that DMG output since the new runes. I haven’t yet found the right mix of runes to produce something similar to what I was running before the rune update. THe best I’ve done since the update, is 2-1-4, output about 14 K dmg and was able to CS at 8.6/min which by the way for me is quite insane. I typically CS at 6.1/min. Before you go all “that sucks Bello get gud” in regards to my average cs/min, realize at the beginning of the season I was averaging 3.1 CS/min. I'm work in progress, what can I say?

True, it’s only been a few days, and this weekend I plan on diving into by experimenting with the rune setups and tinkering with builds. Any Teemo players running into this who used to run similar setups?

Look, I fully admit, I haven't got enough games to draw a conclusion on yet, however, Teemo does feel a bit off in respect to the Mallet/BORK/AS build. I say this after a full season of playing him anytime I wasn't playing ranked or with friends who wanted to play Top lane.

Yet, he feels off to me, I am not stating that he is broke, needs a buff or nerf, just trying to understand the new system and wondered about other Teemo Players.

I’m curious to know the thought of other Teemo Mains and which pages your running if you wouldn’t mind sharing.

Thank you and see you on the Rift.

Bello.

13 Comments

Okuma11/10/2017, 6:45:45 PM2 votes

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Proxy34511/10/2017, 7:25:33 PM2 votes

Try Press the attack from the Precision tree+Cheap shot from the Domination tree for alot of damage. The true damage from Cheap shot is permanent every few seconds if you're going for a Frozen mallet build.

SirΤeemο11/10/2017, 7:28:03 PM2 votes

okay , listen a teemo main with 900k points ... just play on mid lane with these : aery , ultimate hat , celerity , scorch secondary runes : (precision) alacrity , cut down OR coup de grace . also MAX Q .. but start with E , also do this build ... in order item 3151 item 3020 item 3115 item 3135 item 3089 item 3285 , OPTIONAL ITEMS on vs yasuo-zed-syndra (burst MF champions ) item 3100 item 3157 item 3102 if you fall behind don't change build , because all you gonna do is fall even harder TOTAL DAMAGE IN 40 MINUTE GAME : AROUND 60-90K

Do the same build/runes (or change to the new thunderlords)
for the build against TANKS : item 3153 item 3047 or item 3111 item 3124 item 3022 item 3065 item 3072 optional items vs cancerous champions (vlad/gnar etc..) item 3155 item 3123 TOTAL DAMAGE IN 40 MINUTE GAME : 45-60k (depends how many engages you did )

There are other builds/runes as well but ... it depends on the situation . as teemo just harass them with AUTO-Q and farm until your Q is up again

Tenth Leper11/10/2017, 7:54:31 PM2 votes

If you go glacial you don't need to build mallet, so there is that

Chuuu11/14/2018, 6:04:55 AM2 votes

I saw "iPav" and legit shed a tear :(

Back on topic, Teemo mains: Hangsim Teemo (look him up on YouTube) is probably your best bet. Here's his most recently used account. Just poke around there to get a feel for what runes/build to use. http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=procrustean