Can we have a black cleaver for mages

Moonfall Saber·5/17/2019, 2:13:40 PM·4 votes·2,159 views

Maybe even a hydra? Bruisers have no items

9 Comments

FSRER5/17/2019, 3:38:37 PM2 votes

The short answer is NO, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NO The long answer is, maybe but under certain circumstances: Black cleaver exsists so that bruisers can have a long term solution to tons of armor Such item exsisting for mages would mean that magic resist exsists and it does not What can a tank (let's say Sion) build vs a figher? item 3110 item 3075 item 3143 What can the same tank which does not benefit from magic dmg build vs a mage? item 3065 and item 3194 and that can be countered by a item called item 3135 which gives 70 ap and 40% MAGIC PEN Ok, there is a item to heavily counter armor too, 2 to be excact (but mages also have boots that give magic pen for some reason) item 3036 and item 3033 but they give very low ad and their armor pen isnt even that strong compared to void staff.

To sum up, give everyone more viable magic resist items OR reduce the ap every single ap item gives AND THEN something like what you suggest should happen.

cars3n5/17/2019, 3:22:28 PM1 votes

no

warpenguin5555/17/2019, 5:14:09 PM1 votes

Malzahar Brand Cassiopeia get a 65% winrate.

It just sounds like a balance nightmare tbh

Ryze Above AIl5/17/2019, 7:12:00 PM1 votes

If you put a range restriction like Abyssal that favors melee AP champs else ranged battle mages will abuse it like crazy. Even then, I don't know a surefire way to balance it.

AIQ5/17/2019, 7:58:20 PM1 votes

AP bruiser Itemization is lacking. I think the problem is that a traditional APC and a Bruiser do the same thing. Cast abilities.

It would be easy if Syndra could get AP Black Cleaver and AP Hydra and run a muck 1 shotting people and tanks included while being near invincible. Notice who the biggest culprits of Tank X Champion were...

Akali Ekko Viktor Fizz

All of these are AP** NON BRUISERS** who found tank items that allowed them to still deal damage due to their innate kit while being invincible.

The only 2 solutions I can think of would be to give the AP bruisers garbage scaling and great base stats, while APCs had great ratios and garbage base stats.

Which has it's own problems. Or melee only items, but then that doesn't fix champions like Ekko, Fizz, or Akali.

In short the answer is, because it's too hard to balance.