The real reason the matchmaking system is so bad - and why Riot has zero intentions of changing it

SaltyToplaneGoat··56 votes·10,768 views

As we all know the matchmaking system is in a rather weird and not exactly positive spot right now. And for outsiders its kinda hard to see through, given the weird interaction of League, Rank, Hidden MMR, LP, etc. I remember back in the old days where you had the old ELO system. Not perfect, but at least you knew where you were at with it.

And then they changed it for a simple reason: because the "new" system is INTENTIONALLY FLAWED and with the old system it would be way more noticable.

But why would they use this flawed system? What gains does Riot have from this?

Well, the effect of this systme is very simple: to making climbing harder while holding up an illusion. Instead of just ranking up your ELO-number you now have the carrot stick in form of a division promotion in front of your nose. But it would be horrible for Riot if people would just climb into the rank they were comfortable with - after all the biggest number of players in ranked are those who try to climb with blood sweat and tears. If everyone would easily reach their skill level in terms of rank and get comfortable there and seeing that this is where they belong and be comfortable with that, THEY WOULD PLAY LESS.

And that is why you sit on your low rank and get matched with people leagues above you - or why you have these weird patterns of losing streaks right after win streaks as the system forces your winrate to 50%. Generally that already sounds fishy. After all the matchmaking is supposed to achieve 50% through indirect means, giving you stronger and stronger opponents and teammates until you find the level you belong. HOWEVER, what the league system does, is that it sees you are above the 50% and intentionally sets up unfavourable games for you.

All so you don't increase in rank and you PLAY MORE TO GET THAT RANK YOU WANT, EVEN WHEN IN TERMS OF HIDDEN MMR YOU MIGHT ALREADY BELONG THERE. Think about it. If you had ever true 50% win chance, you wouldn't climb, you'd just sit on the rank you belong - as the rank where you belong is ideally the one where you don't climb or drop from. Yet the system ENFORCES the 50% regardless of rank.

And in a pure PvP game, PLAYERS ARE CONTENT. They are the most important content to be honest. You can have champions, visuals, items, mechanics... but nothing of it works unless you find 10 people for a match. So it is Riots utmost priority to make sure that there are as many people playing as possible.

At the same time veteran players with countless hours are more likely to spend RP. I'm not sure how many years I had been playing this game when I first bought a skin, but my mindset was more like "Eh I got so many hours with this game already, might even pay 10 bucks for that now" and not "ten bucks for a virtual costume? Holy shit I could eat three Döner Kebabs from this!".

This is not really a conspiracy theory, but simple psychology and marketing. When you think about it, it's really so obvious, and I feel like a fool for not really noticing it sooner. I mean, I am a Master-Student in Media Studies who wrote his BA-Thesis about League of Legends - NOTICING THINGS LIKE THIS IS PRETTY MUCH MY JOB. And I failed. God that makes me so angry.

Everything is just set up so people do not stop playing. And that sickens me: a good game is played because it is GOOD, not because of some psychological traps hidden inside of it.

However, that system only works as long the illusion is kept up - and here the true genius lies: people who actually managed to climb WILL AUTOMATICALLY DEFEND THE SYSTEM. "I had it hard as fuck, so why should it be any better for any of you low-ELO scrubs? Git gud!" Humans can be disgusting sometimes, really. But as of right now the number of people complaining has increased with every season. I've been with this game since season two and frequented the boards (back then the forums) and observed the trend since then, and sooner or later they will have to change the system.

If you had asked me some years ago if I'd ever quit league I would have told you you were crazy while tending to my lore-fandom/fanfiction blog. But this game has so many flaws that go unadressed for years (RNG crit as the root of all damage creep for example) and now we have Riot INTENTIONALLY screwing up the gaming experience for the sake of profit and binding players through psychological tricks (Key-Hunting for Hextech crafting is one of them, just another incentive to NOT STOP PLAYING UNTIL YOU WIN ENOUGH, which is obviously blocked by a system that keeps setting up bad games for you at times, resulting in having to play even more).

So the only consequence of this was to stop playing until stuff gets fixed. It's a shame, really, but the only way Riot will ever change something is when they stop profiting from this. As long as people keep playing ranked and take the system seriously Riot will not change anything no matter how many complain.

30 Comments

ChronosTrigger9 votes

Not gonna lie....Riot Matchmaking system this season...and the seasons before....is such a lack of effort. It really makes me wanna play DOTA or something....at least there you know what kinda people your going to play with.....but the CONSTANT trolling, is a bit to much. To the point that i just wanna sell my account now...this game is a waste of life & time. You get NO progression going up bc of this rigged system UNLESS your already challenger...then you just get the same people with decent skill. This is just dumb...I used to think, "Well...at least im having fun"......but no....its NOT fun when someone dodges the game and your left playing a 4 v 5 In your promos. its not fun when your the ONLY gold player on your team filled with silvers, and your going against Plats.....its just...its just not fun.

Proxhawk1 votes

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Not gonna lie....Riot Matchmaking system this season...and the seasons before....is such a lack of effort. It really makes me wanna play DOTA or something....at least there you know what kinda people your going to play with.....but the CONSTANT trolling, is a bit to much. To the point that i just wanna sell my account now...this game is a waste of life & time. You get NO progression going up bc of this rigged system UNLESS your already challenger...then you just get the same people with decent skill. This is just dumb...I used to think, "Well...at least im having fun"......but no....its NOT fun when someone dodges the game and your left playing a 4 v 5 In your promos. its not fun when your the ONLY gold player on your team filled with silvers, and your going against Plats.....its just...its just not fun.

I can only upvote this once. The game has lost its fun

ThatGuyWithSwag4 votes

This post did not get enough credit and attention it deserved. Thank you for putting your time and effort into writing all of this. I've also noticed this pattern of ridiculous win streaks (a mate of mine went on an 11 game win streak then suddenly went on a 5 game loss streak). Don't understand how Riot have not fixed the matchmaking system yet. If it is for money, Riot really need to sort out their greed as they managed a turnover of $1.7 billion in 2016. I really could not understand how much more money they really need seeing as they are trying way too hard to milk this game... and its players.

Aries the Ram4 votes

I've just found this post, and o-m-g. This is insane, you're saying the truth ! I was so mad when i learnt that i couldn't chain win even if i was doing my best ! I got stuck in silver for 2 fucking years but i was playing with plats and diamond in normal ( these are my friends who told me that i was a really good support ), but i couldn't win anything in ranked, because i was matched against really high elo ( smurf or not sometimes, i even got a challenger in my game ! Only once in 2 years but still. It's often plat or high gold, i'm actually gold 5 ) Anyway, i hope people will find that post and read it, because Riot really need to change their matchmaking, this is driving the community toxic and insane.

Saevum3 votes

"Can we say that everyone is trolling this game, including myself?" - "just for my sanity?" - IWD 2k17 (in a bronze matchup).

Fizz Reloaded3 votes

This doesn't just happen at low elos but it is a lot more usual there. I stopped playing on this account (main) for a bit and stopped taking it seriously since mid season 6 where my highest ranked was D3 or D2 but most of the time I'll be fighting to stay on Plat1 - D4. To start off D5 it's an elo of its own. There is nothing more difficult in this game than getting out of D5 and once you do most likely you'll be back unless you've been fucking masters or challenger for several seasons and that is why I stopped caring about this account that currently sits on Plat5 which for some reason I'm hardly stuck in even though I've been literally a full league and half higher in passed seasons. On the other hand I have 2 silver accounts(S3 and S5) that I'm trying to get them to gold and it's been so fucking difficult to carry even on duos with another plat player. Both accounts have seen more than 80% win rate drop to like 30% for the horrible matchmaking system on low elos. Now both of these accounts were given to me from the same person who quit league and never been out of silver and one of them has been active since season 3 and I'm starting to believe that the system really has it stuck there because when I solo on the other S3 account that just reached lvl30 last this preseason I have no problem winning games and going on streaks and overall just more fluid going up the ladder so I honestly do believe that you need skill to move up but there are just many many many accounts that for some reason get stuck and it's almost impossible to claim with them.

BloodyAngel72 votes

What its really sad its that we are stupid enough to keep playing this SHIT when its obvious that in the last 3 - 4 years this game has became a BUSSINES and ONLY THAT , there is no more fun in the game , the servers are so badly made ... 3 of my 4 team mates cant even speak english ... and RIOT ITS ONLY PROSPERING because we are RETARDED enough to keep playing :). It took me a while to realize this but at least i can STOP playing and hope that a lot more people will do as well because that is the only solution.

Cotten Eyed Joe2 votes

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And that is why you sit on your low rank and get matched with people leagues above you - or why you have these weird patterns of losing streaks right after win streaks as the system forces your winrate to 50%. Generally that already sounds fishy. After all the matchmaking is supposed to achieve 50% through indirect means, giving you stronger and stronger opponents and teammates until you find the level you belong. HOWEVER, what the league system does, is that it sees you are above the 50% and intentionally sets up unfavourable games for you.

aight. So my question is. If it sets up unfavourable games for me, wouldn't it be setting favorable games for the opponent?

Shinji lkari2 votes

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aight. So my question is. If it sets up unfavourable games for me, wouldn't it be setting favorable games for the opponent?

That's the people who managed to climb. Those are the lucky chosen people who are defending the system.

Cotten Eyed Joe3 votes

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That's the people who managed to climb. Those are the lucky chosen people who are defending the system.

So you're saying Riot has a conspiracy plot. You're saying League isn't a skill game but rather a luck based environment? You do realize how bronze you sound right now right? If you're good enough, you climb. It's not riot's fault that you suck at the game. If you can't climb, it's not cause of some conspiracy, it's because you don't deserve to climb. If you're hard stuck silver with more than a hundred games, it means your skill level is not that of a gold player. And for these "lucky" people, there must be a 50/50 split between the two right? So then there must be thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, are the "Lucky" ones. You realize how retarded you sound right? Cause for every losing team, there's a winning team. So you're saying it's not your fault that you can't climb, it's Riot's? Alright. Cause that makes SO MUCH SENSE.

Cameron342 votes

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Cotten Eyed Joe1 votes

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Definitely a luck based environment instead of skill based. Ranked has always been gambling and its not a true skill match up until you hit Gold. Anything below that is purely random and entirely luck base, except for the few faceroll games where there is an obvious smurf on one team.

League has almost no luck involved. If you're good, you win. If you're bad, you don't. Also, you haven't played league in a while so why are you even posting this?

tanasptrl2 votes

the matchmaking system of this game is the worst thing ever created i am sick of it i get 4 feeders evry game at my last 20 games and i won my lane at at least 17 of them.I waas s1 and demote to s5 at 2 days

ΜΔDºÇŁΘωή2 votes

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the matchmaking system of this game is the worst thing ever created i am sick of it i get 4 feeders evry game at my last 20 games and i won my lane at at least 17 of them.I waas s1 and demote to s5 at 2 days

I know youre feelings same goes for me. Even if i'm winning my lane others lanes feed so much that it's inposible for me to carry them just becouse enemy is also fed just not my laner, but even then they manage to feed my laner who was like 0 9 and he goes up like to 11 9.... This is the most common thing in lol ;D

HeyBigGuyHeyBudd2 votes

This isnt a problem in just low elo. Ive seen high elo people share the same sentiment on the boards.

Gouzgkounis2 votes

100% correct.I am glad to see there are actually healthy minds in here that don't swallaw Riots crap.I just had to add something else too:The high elo players defend the system cause they simply get payed for it too.So if more players are able to reach them with a good ranking system,they will not get payed anymore

KANDAONFIRE2 votes

I'm pretty sick and tired of RIOT and their BS match making system. This game is boring. Its not only very hard to climb, but the teams are very very often unbalanced. When I win, I win 45 to 15. When I lose, I lose the same. It is so obvious that they placed me in with a trash team. This not to say that I'm an expert, but I hold my own pretty well. However, holding your own in solo-Q is not good enough to carry. Actually, even if I'm 20 and 0, and I'm all over the map, the chances of winning are extremely slim. So this carrot analogy is definitely true. And to that I say; FUK YOU RIOT! I'm done with this game!

itamouji2 votes

I hear you. I am done with the ranked matchmaking too.

Almost every game the last few days was either a walk in the park, with almost every lane crushing it, or the team being completely destroyed, to the point it didnt really seem to matter how well i played either way.

Sheldons2 votes

im thinking of selling account because of this and the fucked up meta they force

behindyouinbush2 votes

This is so true. I couldn't agree more. The reason is on my account i had well above 60% winrate with my main champs and genreally 59-61% genereal winrate. after i hit diamond 4 i kept getting in teams all the way down to GOLD FCKING ELO where my winrate suddenly wnet down to 49%, i ALWAYS get the worser teams and ALWAYS got interns, feeders and gerneally bad players in my team so we would simply get stomped and there was nothing to do about it. After my winrate getting below 49% suddenly i had wierd winngin streaks this time? before i could loose 30 games in a row. It's fcking insane how bad this matchmaking system is really, they should fix it.

LL Exotic2 votes

Heavy Bump

TheRealTwoShots2 votes

I mean i kinda already knew how stupid and f***ed up riot is so this doesn't surprise me but yea if they had any balls in reading this post and making to where ranked was more fun then profit then yea i would play way more riot is just a company ran by kids anyways

BeetleKing1 votes

bump

P4 Silent1 votes

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LilBitOfBoth1 votes

I completely agree. I'm still ranking up on a new account and I see this at level 15+ lost 3 games in a row to every lane that lost. I lost too, in the last game I played (the other games I tried to carry and did well, but not good enough) but the person I was against was much better than me and I still managed to get the best score on my team. I came back to this game, but I'm regretting it - gonna go play PUBG.

W00Zle1 votes

Riot's Matchmaking is actually way too bad. every game i get 4 Trollers and the enemy is tryharding my Team just Spams ff. i had 4 afks in 6 games and my Team never stops falming blaming [sg-shisa]

Thiadel1 votes

I managed to solo climb to S5 this season (as support, yay). I haven't played ranked for a few months since. I'm actually waiting to see if I can "reset" Riot's system by doing so. But then the meta went to shit and I really don't want to lose my rank, so I'm torn, lol.

Dhuldun Khan1 votes

my problem is not people trolling, BUT, EVERY MATCHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i play against silver 1-4 or gold league players, im in bronze league. i really just wanna have fun in the game, but matchmaking destroyed it for me due to wrong matches, i know you should learn from your mistakes, some say GETGUD, well now, as if they don't feel the same, but are hiding it to sound like they are VERY good xDD, please haha, they have just a hard time winning but want to sound REALLY good. i cant learn from my mistakes if i keep on getting slaughtered every round i play, once tilted, you give no more attention on whats going on. some really don't troll, but comes forth as such, they just really sucks and are placed in the wrong match, i checked my history and so far 90% of my matches i got silver and gold league players to fight, its not fair, i'm bronze, no matter what, having this is = putting a woman vs a man in a real fight, only a few woman will win.

BestPlayerAlive1 votes

Been playing a little lately and seems like almost every game the other team has at least plats which is fine but when im the best person on my team at silver 1 and they have 2 plats and a diamond it gets real old real fast. Granted regular games have an even more jacked up matchmaking than ranked but it is beyond infuriating not even having a chance in more than half the games.

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