Riot's Stance; Sejauni Isn't A Tank

RocketRelm··2 votes·711 views

On the PBE forums Riot has stated that Sejauni isn't a 'true tank'. Nevermind that her defining feature is building HP. Nevermind that she was the Poster Child of the "Tank Meta" when Cinderhulk was overturned. They state that because her getting ahead doesn't ' help set up your team', she isn't a tank.

Except in my opinion she DOES set up the team, or get set up by them. Her Damage is rarely enough to outright 1v1, her damage is meant to soften so that your assassin/burst can 70%-0% them, or capitalize on a low hp threat by finishing them off. Her set up 'scaling' is that she is beefy enough to survive, and that she locks down and deals 'enough' damage to make finishing a target good, or follows up. I don't want Riot to say "let's give her a Current HP or Missing HP nuke", as I like the fact that she has the option to either initiate or follow up,

I personally love Sejauni the way that she is. I love the fact that she can be viable at all stages of the game, early, mid, and late. I love that I can both be an effective team fight champion while at least standing on my own in 1v1. I love that I can "Carry With Tank", and that it isn't inherently broken now that the numbers are tuned correctly. Her major weakness is that she can't actually deal with consistent DPS if she's peeled off/kited, or the enemy actually has enough beefcake to get past her cc rotation, then utilize their own dps (Devourers anyone?).

To me, Sejauni is the lockdown initiation tank that is moderate in early game, and snowballs into late game or if she gets ahead. She builds a boatload of HP, Counters burst and ultra squish champions, and gets countered by enemy dps that doesn't die immediately.

So, "What Is Sejauni" to you all, personally?

12 Comments

NemeBro3 votes

When did they say that?

RocketRelm1 votes

I included a direct quote earlier in the thread, and there is discussion surrounding, but the beginning of discussing Sejauni as being just durable and not a tank is specifically in the last paragraph of the post here (links to PBE so unless yo have a PBE account you can't comment directly onto it) http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/yMtrbjGs-core-defense-items-pass-516?comment=00110000

Fadedpf2 votes

Not a true tank? U FOCKIN WOT M8?

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

Beefy like hell. Tons of Aoe CC. Damage scales with HP.

Uhh, I'm not sure but that's pretty much what we call a tank...

67chrome2 votes

So, "What Is Sejauni" to you all, personally?

A tank.

From making a lot of charts comparing champions to see what the Tank, Fighter, Assassin, Marksman, Mage, and Support archetypes really ment - it seemed Sejuani epitomized the average strengths of an average tank better than any other champion in LoL.

She has a massive AoE CC ability to initiate fights or counter-initiate, she has some pretty solid backup CC in slows to lock down priority targets or peel for her allies, she has an AoE trample skill that makes her Want to be in the center of a fight, she has a dash that allows her to jump in and pick a fight.

I can't really see how she's not a tank.

She leans more in the fighter direction for her secondary rather than the support direction of CC tanks like Braum, Leona, Taric, and and Alistar. Being more of a tank like Amumu, Jarvin, or Malphite where she lacks in some utilities/CC spam-fests, but she's still a tank first and foremost.

LiveYiOrDieHard2 votes

And Maokai is an assassin.

Señor Karthus1 votes

A poro

360D3GR3SS1 votes

She ISN"T a true tank. She is meant to be more of a bruiser initiator.

RocketRelm1 votes

Xypherous: However, I admit that I could be misunderstanding what you mean by defensive tanks. If you consider Sejuani or Gragas a defensive tank - then this argument breaks down - mostly because there's a bunch of high damage diver types that are perceived as tanks simply because they are durable.

My major concern is, if Sejauni depends on Tank itemization to work, and if Tanks get buffs to compensate for item badness, and Sejauni isn't considered a tank, then where does that leave Sejauni? What is she even 'supposed' to itemize then?

Diamondtear1 votes

Isnt Sej's passive a tenacity and armor + mr buff when she gets hit or hits someone?

SwapShadows1 votes

Do you even know what a tank is?

CaptainAntiHeroz1 votes

She's not a tank, she's a battalion of super tanks that can stop you from moving for about 3 full seconds

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