Dear Riot. Please Revert Zyra to Pre Mid Year Mage Update

Perma CC··6 votes·2,121 views

Zyra

Many of us prefered the old Q shape. We had more outward range which is prefered over the wider width, better for poking and wave management as well as setting up seeds without accidentally spawning all your seeds at once. Also I prefered having LESS plants that were actually impactful and did things when they weren't bugging out, then the current cluster fuck of plants we get now that literally die instantly. Also her kit was far better balanced then it is now, before her power was distributed to areas of her kit that required skill... not the RNG machine she is now... where her passive takes up a huge portion of her power distribution and is completely random and has no skill check from the player. Just give us old Zyra back please. I remember for the longest time after hearing she was getting reworked I was soooooooooooooooooo scared you guys would ruin her for me... and the puure disapointment of her changes... MAINLY the Q change... you guys ruined her for me in mid lane.... Would really like to see the revert. Lets me honest. The Mid year mage update didn't hit the mark for any of your mages... the least you can do is revert her back like you did with most of the other mid year mage updates. I honestly would prefer her old passive at this point then the current.

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Poop Jelly3 votes

I actually do like Zyra's old Q shape. The bar right now, while interesting, seems less practical (practical as in the shape itself, not the idea of how it interacts with plants). It makes her work rather hard to get the angle right, get the plants up and running, but to face the fact that the Q damage does mediocre damage and plants die in 1 hit or 2.

Perma CC2 votes

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I actually do like Zyra's old Q shape. The bar right now, while interesting, seems less practical (practical as in the shape itself, not the idea of how it interacts with plants). It makes her work rather hard to get the angle right, get the plants up and running, but to face the fact that the Q damage does mediocre damage and plants die in 1 hit or 2.

Yep. It felt smoother... it had a bit better range it was allowed to have a bit more base damage because it was harder to land on multiple champions at once. It allowed her to set her seeds up in lane in favorable positions and then pop them only when she wanted too.... IT felt smoother to use in combo with her ult and it was just an actual skillshot... atm her shit is just boring... Same with her passive... new passive is RNG boring and random... at least the old one was a skill check and was impactful in teamfights when she died if she could snipe off low health targets. ALSO her plants felt more impactful, damage, duration and health were higher but she just had less of them... which I PERSONALLY think is much more fair for enemies. Less things attacking them... and easier to balance. ATM when like 8 plants are attacking you at once its really hard to allow her plants to be strong without them just being oppressive. If they are strong they do too much and if they are weak they just are non existant. But before there was only a few at a time unless she set up some in advance and it allowed for them to be stronger because she wasn't overpowering an area with them.

Zyra goes mid3 votes

I hope one time can go with zyra mid again... item 3070

Step Sis Lux1 votes

she is getting some changes in 8.11 so we will see but i dont think the gonna revert her

5050BS1 votes

I just hope its more then a band aid.

Beacon Academy1 votes

Malzahar Get in line buddy

Perma CC1 votes

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Malzahar Get in line buddy

I feel you :P Trust me.

Pika Fox1 votes

Id much rather her stay as-is personally. Q was terrible to play against/see and use as zyra imo. It was so tiny, either the enemy walked into it because they couldnt see it resulting in cheap damage, or you constantly just barely missed.

5050BS1 votes

You didnt play her then. Old Q was 1000x better then current Q.

Range was better Area hit more in Teamfights You didnt have to position yourself half way into the enemy team to get the most out of it.

Meanwhile

Yasuo's Ult is ACTUALLY scripting built into it. It USE to TP to where your mouse was at. They changed it to ACTUALLY place you out side Turrets range if possible. Because Yasuo players are that bad.

Pika Fox1 votes

Im a support main, so yes, i do end up playing her from time to time, and yes, her new Q is far less infuriating for both zyra and her opponents.

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