[{quoted}](name=Light Burner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lQVwZxys,comment-id=000300000000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-08T20:51:23.572+0000)
yuumi's maxed W shared 16% adaptive force correct? thats 16 adaptive for every 100 ad or ap. By 15-20 mins you're looking at your adc having 150-200 ad. which would center off to a 30 adaptive force bonus when attached to your ad. I dont know why that was so hard to understand if you're claiming to know yuumi. Im curious as to where you get 70-80 or 100 adaptive force from?
You're not useful applying ardent on your adc in teamfights? Your main dmg dealer surviving isnt useful? And you never said anything about grouping you said "Youre also looking to completely abandon your ADC and move to your top laner" You're not abandoning your adc if he's 2 feet away from you. A slow, a movespeed buff, and a heal, and you have very little peel and this is without considering the "delayed" snare. You know your adc isnt rooted when you're attached to him he can still move it only makes him that much harder to kill.
" frontline who benefits heavily from the adaptive force youre giving, "
Who dont build too much ad unless you're referring to carry top laners not tank top laners.
"the ranged slow to get onto a target, heal and speedup to stay on target, and ult to, again, stay on target."
Imagine saying you have very little protection power than turning around and contradicting yourself and saying you can stick to your target. If you can close a gap with your abilities you can also make a gap with those same abilities.
"Yeah, 300 HP more. Which is 300 extra HP a minute. Literally what you said. Youre saying nothing here."
You still made no argument against this. 1k gold in heals vs 700g in adaptive force. Ill take the 1k over the 700g any day.
"No, its close to 100 adaptive. Maxing W gives you ~20 base adaptive for both plus 16%."
https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Yuumi
(5 / 7 / 9 / 11 / 13 (+ 4 / 7 / 10 / 13 / 16%)
Dont know where you pulled 20 from its 13 at max rank, and
13+16% on a 200ad champ = 45 ad
5+4% on a 200 ad champ = 13 ad
45-13 = 32 ad
amazing what we can do with math.
"ESPECIALLY since you should be building ludens > deathcap and just overall straight AP."
Im actually convinced you're trolling after this statement.
Yuumi's Ap ratios
Shield 30%
Q 45-65%
w none
E 10%
Her ap scaling is shit why would you build her heavy ap instead of items like ardent + athene's + redemption items?
LOL, you clearly have no idea how to play yuumi or what youre even talking about.
Ok, first, the ADC is nowhere near as useful as a juggernaut in teamfights if the juggernaut can get onto someone. Yuumi makes them get onto someone and stay there. Hell, anyone with good engage gets a double up from Yuumi R. Malphite? Hes now in the enemy team and youre putting out heavy damage and more CC on them as well. Yuumi functions a lot like Orianna in this respect.
So, now that we've got that settled and we realize jax/malph/trundle/aatrox/riven etc are far more useful than an ADC who is staying at the back so you cant land Qs or do anything useful because you have no immediate peel, we now move on to the next bit.
Yuumi's ratios are not garbage. They are pretty damn good. Add to the fact that you can go full AP and be safe and not need to build even boots, you can literally just go full AP.
Passive has a 30% ratio, assuming you can access it. Riot keeps giving yuumi less reason to ever detach.
Q has a 65% AP ratio.
W has a 16% adaptive ratio, so free stats for whoever you are on (and more free stats for you). (and yes, apparently its 13, though i think thats on PBE or something, because i was in game earlier and i swear it said 16 + 16%)
E is 10% healing, but the heal is never what youre looking to use. You have a whopping 10% movespeed ratio.
R has a ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY percent AP ratio. 140%.
Full AP yuumi hurts a lot, gives good enough heals, has a pretty massive shield when you can use it, and will keep your slow ass juggs or even your mobile melee caries like jax and riven on their targets so they can win fights.
Yuumi is very bad at being defensive, and doesnt give an ADC much outside lane. It is far better to get on your main engage tank or your immobile top laner/jungler and keep them on who they need to get on.
So yeah, athenes and ardent are pretty garbage, given your ADC is your last option.
then you know you are doomed.
She just removes counterplay.
where bind someone and have to wait before changing targets
