Tips on fighting these two champions?

Slythion·May 18, 2017·2 votes·302 views

If I didn't hate Lucian so much, I'd be banning one of these two every game.

seems to have so much sustain with and seems to have a pretty decent time early by just spamming her Q (I think that's her point-and-click ranged ability anyways). I basically find it very hard to bully her (as she just sustains with unlimited energy under tower) and then she just snowballs from there.

seems like shes a lane bully that just keeps scaling at this point. Her mobility makes it near impossible for me to catch her and like Akali, she just snowballs by getting a few picks here and there until she's just a monster.

I could use some tips plox

9 Comments

TehNACHOMay 18, 20171 votes

Akali is the exact opposite of a bully. She is beyond weak pre-6 because even though she can chuck shurikens at you all day, she can't engage on them to actually do significant damage or statcheck the melees she can reach without her Ultimate. Make Akali's 1-5 hell for her, and you can get a decent lead on her before she can snowball.

You don't need to catch Kat, you just need to trade her. While annoying if you give her a bunch of free blinks by walking near daggers and using the wrong skills to fight her, Kat can't trade blow for blow very well.

For both, just be more brave I guess. If you play too passively against them, they get free trades and farm, and that would make everybody a lane bully in such ideal circumstances.

SpookyNeedleMay 19, 20171 votes

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Akali is the exact opposite of a bully. She is beyond weak pre-6 because even though she can chuck shurikens at you all day, she can't engage on them to actually do significant damage or statcheck the melees she can reach without her Ultimate. Make Akali's 1-5 hell for her, and you can get a decent lead on her before she can snowball.

You don't need to catch Kat, you just need to trade her. While annoying if you give her a bunch of free blinks by walking near daggers and using the wrong skills to fight her, Kat can't trade blow for blow very well.

For both, just be more brave I guess. If you play too passively against them, they get free trades and farm, and that would make everybody a lane bully in such ideal circumstances.

She can Q W aa level 2 for a big chunk of damage

Magical ZoeMay 18, 20171 votes

Akali After level 6, try to prevent her use of Mark of the Assassin, as she can proc it twice using her dashes.

Akali will still be hit by AOE abilities while inside her shroud.

Picking a stealth reveal champion such as Lee Sin, will make things much harder for Akali as she will not be able to her shroud as freely.

Try to carry a control ward against her so that she can't use her shroud defensively.

Katarina Save a disable (stun/snare/silence/knock-up/displacement) for her to stop her from channeling her ultimate and dealing massive AOE damage.

Katarina is weak at farming under tower at earlier levels, so try to pick something that pushes hard.

Zhonya's active can counter Katarina's Ultimate.

Buying a Guardian Angel will revive you after death denying the resets Katarina would have received from her passive.

SlythionMay 18, 20171 votes

you had some pretty good ideas, thanks! Although I don't think control wards work against Akali shroud ever since the stealth changes

MonotachiMay 18, 20171 votes

Control wards don't reveal stealth anymore, so that's correct.

Tether abilities also reveal stealth champions for the whole duration of the 'chain'. There are also abilities that should state if they reveal stealth or not, so try to build a team of stealth-revealers if you are really keen on shutting those champions down.

Champions like Leblanc 's E and Morgana 's R will reveal Akali for the whole duration of the chains.

AlienPrimateMay 18, 20171 votes

Any kind of fighter will destroy both of them all game long. If you are playing someone with a bit of sustain, damage, and toughness they stand no chance. CC also helps to stop their mobility. For middle lane some good picks are Swain Chogath Galio Gragas Vladimir . Top lane, just about everyone should be able to handle Akali.

PhantomGGMay 18, 20171 votes

Unfortunately this completely goes into champion select. The following champions can be OP as fuck when you fail champion select. Aatrox Cassiopeia Fiora Irelia Jax Katarina MasterYi Tryndamere XinZhao Yasuo Akali

What do all these champions have in common? Very high DPS, DPS up the fucking ass, so much DPS a 1v1 against these champions is border line suicidal, even if they are down while u have a lead. However they all share a very common weakness Maokai Nami Syndra

They all hate tanks who can survive their damage They all hate annoying mage supports who can disengage fights and disrupt them They all hate Bursty mages who can one shot them the moment they are ccd

a comp drafted around MasterYi is easily countered by a comp that would have the 3 champions i showed. hell even 2 out of 3 of the things I listed that you need are enough to get the job done.

However if you draft no cc...tanks..or one shot burst...then well.. Akali PENTAKILL!

KoKobotoMay 18, 20171 votes

Katarina is a skill match up for the most part, just read when she wants to throw her daggers and move appropriately. She can't point click kill you entirely unless she is ahead. NOTE! It is extremely likely she can point click your bot lane though cause often they will be running away from the gank and have more difficulty avoiding daggers and just be squishier overall.

Akali is pretty cancer, getting grevious wounds for her is pretty huge and also some hard CC, not much actually gameplay counterplay to Akali cause she is entirely point click. AoE damage for her shroud.