Rito Please Nerf Kayle

Azazel Aerternum·3/13/2019, 7:08:09 PM·6 votes·1,534 views
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Edit: Not going to respond to people that don't click the link to see the Grandmaster Tier player that has a consistent 71% winrate with Kayle top. You should read the post before commenting. :)

Seriously, I feel bad for the teams I've been going against. Since you placed me in Bronze 1, the fact that I'm going against Silvers, Golds, and Plats should make you question either the Champion (or why I was put in Bronze 1 lmao), or the balance of it.

Factoring out two matches where I had AFK and Inting players on my team, that would make this a 14 game winstreak as the character...

Granted, it'd be slightly lower against on-tier opponents, so ignore the KDA in particular, but I'm playing SUPPORT Kayle, and the fact is that I would hit my powerspikes and items a lot sooner if I weren't 'Supporting', ergo the KDA would be even higher (can't go past a 100% winrate or else that would be higher too).

I do have a lot of farm for a Support, that would be b/c I start with a Dematerializer, grab a support shield, use it to get some cs in lane (and dematerialize cannons), and then roam, solo farming where and when possible (i.e. laner dies in roam, either of them; I shove out wave and smack the tower down). One match I literally had gotten two Skill Orbs, the first pre-11 (granting me Ranged Attacks at level 10), and the second pre-16, granting me the 16 powerspike of True Damage + Permanent Attackspeed, all at level 14.

Some people will be upset with me for having an unpopular opinion, which is that the character is fine in terms of playstyle (even without the recently added buffs to W and E), and in fact is TOO strong at the moment. But the truth is, out of all the 'broken' characters I've played over the years (typically averaging a 70-80% winrate in Ranked for the most part), I've never had a character that was this outlandish. She has a safe early game against most Champions, scales fairly hard, and is a lot stronger than people give her credit for.

https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Azazel%20Aerternum ("Bronze 1", Riot is trolling, I'm not actually a Bronze 1 player, and this is my only account; I played other games for a bit, i.e. HoTS)

https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Unsung (Grandmaster Kayle Top 71% winrate that created much of the build; that's NEW Kayle 71% winrate, in the Top)

Suggested fixes:

Recode the Passive Ascendant to be based off of Ultimate Ranks (instead of skill points invested), this will fix the troll issue of Klepto sometimes giving me a powerspike anywhere between 2 to 10 minutes sooner than otherwise intended (theoretically could be even faster if RNG is blessing you)

Add 25 to 50 damage (all other damage should be applied before the Execute; last hitting) on the E against Minions (and probably, Monsters), killing a target with it should reduce the CD by X seconds, and refund Y mana (something small, 5-10, perhaps scaling so it becomes beneficial to level early for last hitting; i.e. rank 1 reduces it by 1 second, refunds 5 mana; rank 5 reduces it by 5 seconds, refunds 30 mana, etc.)

Nerf the base damage on her Waves, but increase the scaling slightly to make it better with items (and less on its own, without them)

Nerf the E Missing HP damage slightly early (Rank 1: 7.5% instead of 10%), it does almost no damage against a target at full HP, but deals some silly damage the lower HP a target gets (especially post-6, where it begins to spread that damage to other targets)

16 Comments

Sir Saltarin3/13/2019, 7:36:43 PM4 votes

Not gonna lie, what you make on normal games on really low elo isn't a proof of nothing.

It just doesn't matter.

Sona Ping3/13/2019, 7:25:24 PM2 votes

They are planning to nerf kayle. They are doing some fixes and nerfing multiple things such as her AD & AS per level.

Saezio3/13/2019, 7:13:55 PM1 votes

Her winrates are abysmal. You are just playing with bad people