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8% pick rate is also very high for that number, it means first time yoricks are just crushing ppl.
Like just why, hes pretty much auto win top lane right now, something needs to be done.
Anatera10 votesRiot doesn't balance. They give characters periods of OPness and periods of uselessness. They don't strive for a middle ground and haven't done so for years, even though that's the very definition of balance. Yorick is just experiencing one of these periods of OPness.
ZephyrDrake12 votesRiot doesn't balance. They give characters periods of OPness and periods of uselessness. They don't strive for a middle ground and haven't done so for years, even though that's the very definition of balance. Yorick is just experiencing one of these periods of OPness.
yeah because boards also want balance... except that most people here are more than happy to leave champions, if not entire classes, be completely unviable just because they don't like them
iamthegoatofwar2 votesyeah because boards also want balance... except that most people here are more than happy to leave champions, if not entire classes, be completely unviable just because they don't like them
I do get what your saying. Honestly I do agree that some champions should be left in the gutter, not because of being unliked, but due to the nature of their kits (no one likes yasuo...at all hardly, but god kassadin takes the cake for me in most cases). I could understand if it was the simple general triangle of tanks hating DPS, DPS hating assassins, assassins hating tanks, but it's not just that any more. Literally damage (and mobility) across the board is too high and that's where a lot of the balance problems stem from at present. People REFUSE to comprehend this and riot just keeps making it worse by adding more damage every patch.
xDelightifyx3 votesToday everyone hates Assasines and bruisers, because they basical had a free season (8). If an assasine. can oneshot a tank, without beeing decently fed (even if he is he should take at least 5 s to kill a tank) the champ class ment to hardcounter assasines. Riots favouritism for some roles is why ppl are raging and wanting entire roles to be guttet. Tbh i can understand that, because i dont think it is fair that Assasines provide nearly no counterplay, except. of expensive items. Even when i poly them perfectly as lulu (assasine hardcounter no1.) i or my adc will get oneshot anyqay, because of the spell is so bugg that already actuvated spells arrive anyways. I had more than 5 games where i polyd rengar perfectly midair, but as he arrived (transformed to a bunny) i got oneshot. Thanks Riot, this is rlly frustrating, like it is to be oneshot. I can feel ur incredible favouritism towards assasines and bruisers in s8. I dont want to be only a snack for an Assasine, because i dont surivive the burst that doesnt provide any counterplay.
thats the reason why ppl hate enitere roles, solo because of riots biasedness for certain roles. If they were balanced, or Riot would care for all roles, this problem wouldnt exist. Basically Riot is 100% responsible for how the Community changed.
Illabethe1 votesPersonally.... I'm a little frustrated in Top lane as well, because I've actually seen how it evolved.
Mundo used to be readily killable. Then they doubled his ult's Regen base, and Lowered the regen of everyone else.
Darius used to struggle with move speed, prohibiting how fast he could get to 5 stacks, drastically decreasing potential snowballs.
Irelia used to have gaps where she would miss last hitting a Q, and only had one potential saving dash. Now she has 3, a FAR stronger stun, and itemization which nearly doubles her effective HP.
Yorick is just gross right now. He's got enough mobility that he in his own right hardly ever can be killed, even if slowed, but now his minions can independently push without losing damage, and because of damage creep in runes/items, can now just farm waves of creeps almost as fast as you can kill them.
Garen's counter used to be move speed. Now he runs faster than most of the people building move speed.
Top basically in a nutshell: Buff after buff to independent champions in top lane to balance their play against other top laners, without considering how those same champs interact with other lanes.
Princess Bunhead2 votesFunny, I find it the other way around - I find Darius to be absolute dogshit compared to S5/S6. Now they die so quickly, and everyone and their mother has dashes, slows, speed-ups, shields and/or knock-ups.
If you die to a Garen, you fucked up. He's such a simple champion, and while easy to play, his threat is also easy to assess.
Darius is squishy af, and can't go into the thick of it anymore, unless super ahead.
But I'll agree that Jax, Irelia and to some extent Camille and Riven had a free season (Urgot too, but he's really not your typical bruiser), mainly due to them being mobile bruisers - while still not being weak in laning. Riven at 6 with old conq up and ignite could flat out burst a Darius with a phage down, 100-0.
Same with Jax. And while Darius have the early game advantage in most cases, he holds none of the agency. Those 4 champions chose when to fight, unless THEY misplay.
It's really disgustingly simple on Jax - Darius uses/used Q? Jump in on him, AA-W-AA+start E, and just fucking hunt him down, or make him unable to trade anymore...
Yorick is disgustingly strong vs immobile people though, due to that W. ;)
Illabethe1 votesSeason 5-6 Darius couldn't kill people unless he took Ghost. 
He was a bit tankier and shredded less but he was easy to avoid.
Garen is not easy to avoid. Most champions have to choose between avoiding him or sacrificing an objective. So they try to save the objective, which gives him his free engage. There are a few skirmishers who can sustain duel him, but that's not most of the roster. Right now he can outrun most adcs, mages, etc. Threat is easy to assess. But Threat is hard to make go away.
Alzon1 votesDarius has an easy time with Jax so long as you remember to E > Q with nothing in between, and then don’t hit him until counterstrike runs out.
Aseraan1 votesthats just what riot does for years now whit extra stepsXD
y0r1ck9 votesBelieve me, they didn't forget about yorick, and I am certain nerfs are coming. Just give them some time lol it has only been one patch. Before the mob grabs the pitchforks let me say a few things in defense of yorick.
He's one of the lower pick rate champions. It takes the community longer to adjust to yorick buffs compared to someone like yasuo. And it has only been one patch.
Have you seen him played in pro? He's 21/20. Not the best. From what I've seen he is a hefty liability for his jungler and team. He has a weak early game and needs to be babysat, like nasus but has more utility for less scaling damage.
Yorick's damage is the lowest it's ever been. Yorick's reliability is the highest it's ever been. The champion is easy as fuck. The kit basically does everything you're supposed to do in LOL for you. So when an easy champion becomes more reliable and popular you'll see numbers like in the op.
The maiden change was a massive QOL buff for experienced yorick players, but it was an even bigger buff for inexperienced yorick players. This also helps to explain numbers you see in the op.
I can only speak for myself and a few others, but yorick hasn't felt this good since before his first nerf. This feels like what the champion should've been right at the start.
Let's face it, the majority of LOL players can't counterplay a yorick. They don't know how to manage a wave to fuck yorick. They can't dodge skillshots or click accurately.
Certainly he will get nerfed, I'm sure they're already brainstorming, but one idea I liked was removing the ghouls that spawn when he ults. It will lower his reliability for players who do not plan carefully, but won't hit as hard for players who think ahead. The real hit here will be removing the only real combo he has, removing 100 extra damage at level 6.
Edit- This is a fucking massive nerf but I'd be k with it cuz maiden is that nice to keep around. Was so infuriating fiddling with jank ai in the jungle to keep maiden alive before this.
Toxicate137 votesJust got beat by a bronze yorick player because he picked yorick. champ is a joke
y0r1ck10 votesYeah turns out he's good vs people who can't kite well, click accurately, draft well, and punish weak early games. Who knew?
Yenn4 votesYeah turns out he's good vs people who can't kite well, click accurately, draft well, and punish weak early games. Who knew?
... What? His win rate, pick rate, and ban rate at Diamond are incredibly high. He's too good in general.
Yorick has one of the highest movement speeds in the game. Most immobile champions flat out cannot stop him from getting in range once he has Phage, not considering his abilities.
With Trinity Force, the majority of champions can't kite him unless he plays badly.
He kills a minion and gets 445/470 MS for 2 seconds, which at the very least, will allow him to get in range to cut your retreat off with W. You can sidestep it, but doing so places you closer to him. After dodging his W, you also have to sidestep his E, which also allows him to get closer. At this point, he's basically on top of you and can just beat you down with Q, even though you dodged his abilities.
And god help you if you're any sort of mage or carry and get hit by his W or E. The ghouls will easily dumpster 60-70% of your health, without Yorick touching you, however unlikely that is with his additional movement speed from landing E.
y0r1ck3 votesI realized I wasn't very helpful and you just need some information on how to play vs a yorick. If you head to the yorick mains subreddit you'll find plenty of threads dealing with the topic. Go there if you still need help.
SociaI Justice4 votesoh look a low elo yorick main defending his broken ass champion lmao
the shy top1 voteslol
Toxicate132 votesYeah turns out he's good vs people who can't kite well, click accurately, draft well, and punish weak early games. Who knew?
Imagine trying to defend a broken champion just because you one trick them. You know damn well that Yorick is busted, you just can't admit it to yourself because it would ruin your self esteem. Who knew?
y0r1ck1 votesImagine trying to defend a broken champion just because you one trick them. You know damn well that Yorick is busted, you just can't admit it to yourself because it would ruin your self esteem. Who knew?
"Certainly he will get nerfed, I'm sure they're already brainstorming, but one idea I liked was removing the ghouls that spawn when he ults. It will lower his reliability for players who do not plan carefully, but won't hit as hard for players who think ahead. The real hit here will be removing the only real combo he has, removing 100 extra damage at level 6." - Me a few days ago
I think you owe me an apology.
Toxicate131 votes"Certainly he will get nerfed, I'm sure they're already brainstorming, but one idea I liked was removing the ghouls that spawn when he ults. It will lower his reliability for players who do not plan carefully, but won't hit as hard for players who think ahead. The real hit here will be removing the only real combo he has, removing 100 extra damage at level 6." - Me a few days ago
I think you owe me an apology.
I don't owe you anything
5050BS7 votesBut Urgot was nerfed to second to last top laner because "He can use Conqueror well"
Yets42405 votesLike legit they fucking gutted him. From top 5 to second to last in one patch. His poor W is such shit currently as the cut its scaling literally in half. Lategame he's sitting on a barely 400HP shield and its just fucking pathetic. I mean, with 2k bonus HP, he's only getting a 450HP shield on a 9 second cooldown, which is also the only defensive mechanic he's got.
y0r1ck1 votesYeah I thought the mana changes were enough.
Ragnaveil1 votesThe change literally means just pick Darius into him, run Ghost, and watch him die twice as fast than before. Once again, toplane balance is still a missing cog in the balance machine (Especially since they didn't, idk, hit Riven with any nerfs yet considering Spear makes her a fucking messiah. Its clearly a core item on her, so now balance her with that in mind Riot).
ModAcademy Kayn4 votesHasn't it been like...2 days since patch day? Chillllll man.
ZephyrDrake3 votesbecause if they nerf him everyone will instantly start complaining about how he is "weak" just like how it happened when he got nerfed before even though he was pretty strong
Daddy Ants3 votes56% with an 8.4% play rate.
If any other champion had those kind of stats they would be IMMEDIATELY HOTFIXED.
On My Kill List2 votesyorick is annoying but what real influence does he have on the game outside of top? all he is a splitpush and afk machine. also maybe the reason why he's so strong now might be cuz the champs he goes up well against the most are popular atm and toplane is just a mess right now.(even more so then usual) even the smallest meta change would kick yorick back into the gutter. thats how volatile of a champion he is. i'd say wait and see 1 or 2 more months then ask for nerfs.
y0r1ck2 votesGood rivens and any jax are bad matchups for yorick. Actually after checking op.gg he's got bad matchups vs 6/9 of the top 10 picked champs in top. Though when I say bad matchups, i mean bad if both players know it. A new yorick will dumpster a new riven/sylas though, maybe that's a factor.
Baa Woof2 votesThis is why:
NoIWontBuySkins1 votesRiot wont balance champs until the sell enough skins, look at Yas and Zed.
y0r1ck9 votesLol yorick selling skins good joke
Jennifer4201 votesbecause riot always ignored yorick for years. you guys should have learned by now. seriously.
yorick always had good damage and sustain but always stood in the shadow of bigger titans. now that riot nerfed some of them more and more and more, yorick starts to shine. now they will either
cough mordegayser.
y0r1ck1 votes3 They'll give him a fair nerf and continue to do a good job.
Aseraan1 votesIS THAT A MUTHERFKIN CUCUMBERBUTCH REFERENCE?
Jennifer4201 votesa what? no.
inFamous Zion1 votesRiot has no idea how balancing works.
Riven is receiving nerfs despite nothing being buffed in her way to get this strong. She got strong due to Essence Reaver or now Spear of Shojin and Death Dance. Those two items combined give her a lot of sustain and power and breaks all the rules. Riven received maybe last year a buff to her hp regen and reverted her R cdr as well as small adjustment on her Q.
These aren't buffs just reverts or adjustments. But yet they are targeting her for major nerfs.
Same goes for Yorick, he is an off meta pick. When other things are weak he is strong, he is a monster.
y0r1ck1 votesRiven jax yorick are just too strong right now. I agree that a lot of yorick counters just left the meta and that may explain his stats somewhat, but I think his ability to completely stalemate the lane at level 6 is too strong for now.
Anchorit Wracaj1 votesI dont care what is broken in low elo.. The only thing that is broken in low elo its a human brain of players. Balance the game about diamond and above. And yes,Yorick is pretty decent/strong in high elo,so im not sure he needs nerfs. More likely its a Conqueror problem.
Daddy Ants1 votesI dont care what is broken in low elo.. The only thing that is broken in low elo its a human brain of players. Balance the game about diamond and above. And yes,Yorick is pretty decent/strong in high elo,so im not sure he needs nerfs. More likely its a Conqueror problem.
Conqueror was hotfixed nerfed last night and Yoricks stats are still out of line.
Yorick and Riven imo are hotfix worthy for some nerfs.
y0r1ck1 votesI don't want them to rush out a nerf. I'd rather them take their time and pick a nerf that's good. And honestly I'd rather fight a yorick than a riven any time.
y0r1ck1 votesConsidering conqueror and grasp are even at the moment (grasp just slightly better with the current builds), I don't think it's a conqueror issue.
Anchorit Wracaj1 votesConsidering conqueror and grasp are even at the moment (grasp just slightly better with the current builds), I don't think it's a conqueror issue.
If I see Conqueror on draven,on kayn,on jax,and on kled... On 4 PEOPLE in one game,and zero Grasp. How is Grasp just slighty better?
y0r1ck1 votesCheck the stats. Grasp has just a slightly higher winrate.
Chembaron Yamada1 votesGrasp is slightly better on Yorick than Conqueror. Not in general.
Alzon1 votesPeople haven’t learned to start 
and 4 pots vs him yet.
Naalith1 votesDon't worry, Yorick isn't popular like Irelia or Akali so he'll be nerfed in a shorter amount of time.
the shy top1 votesEvery game I just see yorick
GripaAviara1 votesYorick is busted for a while, now it's just that Aatrox is gone, Irelia is gone, etc.
Meanwhile, fizz could be a solution. I accidentally picked Fizz into him and it was pretty good. That passive really saves you from excessive poke and you can jump out of his pit
