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What if Fizz was given the Cassiopeia treatment?

Hay5eed··1 votes·286 views

Cassiopeia's passive give her a movespeed buff that increases with her level. In return for this ability she cannot buy any boot item.

Do you see where I'm going with this?

Let Fizz keep his E but make it so that his cannot buy Zhonyas.

Cassiopeia is locked out of boot items because giving her bonus movespeed and allowing her to buy boots would be insane, espeically if she got ahead, because you have a terrifying basilik that you can't run away from in you game. Unfortunately this also means that she misses out on the unique bonus' that this boots can provide (namely, Mercury Treads for Magic Resistance and Tenacity, Ninja Tabi for Armor and taking less damage from auto attacks, and Sorcerer Shoes for magic pen).

This is balanced for Cassiopeia because she is trading a not so valuable item for a passive that mostly makes up for it AND another inventory slot for another item.

Fizz would be trading a really valuable item for an equally effective (if not MORE effective) ability. He wouldn't be able to pick up a Zhonyas, but he has an ability that has a MUCH lower cooldown, plus movement, damage, and even a slow. The item slot would be filled by another item which couldn't posses CDR, AP, and AR all at the same time.

What do you think?

7 Comments

MrHaZeYo3 votes

That sounds awful.

AmetDeCrypt3 votes

being locked out from an extra 15 magic pen boots and being locked out of a much larger items are very different things. you didn't even give him any compensation when you remember the whole reason he has his trollpole is because he's a squishy ap non dpser with no other defensive abilities who needs to sit on his targets' faces in order to deal any amount of damage. which is not the easiest thing in the world.

Hay5eed1 votes

Hell give him his extra second on his cdr back IDGAF.

Hay5eed1 votes

He already has good mobility with his dash through and his troll poll. Honestly this really wouldn't hurt Fizz that much.

What do Fizz's usually build? I'm far from a pro player but it's probably something like item 3020 item 3100 item 3157 item 3285 item 3135 item 3001 ? Maybe a item 3165 or item 3047 ?

Take away Zhonya's and BOOM, shove a item 3089 in there. You get the ultimate glass cannon.

This also begs another question...DO you really need a Zhonya's when you get one every 5.5 seconds? Do you DESERVE a Zhonya's when you get one every 5.5 seconds?

The most annoying part about laning against a Fizz ISN"T the damage or mobility it is just how safe such a squishy target can be. Having low defensive stats don't mean much when you can dodge skill shots and hop over walls while being untargetable (also a bitch thing about Fizz, troll poll is not a dash, which means that talayah's rocks and poppy's W doesn't proc on it)

Hay5eed1 votes

Also, you are kinda forgetting the part where this whole thing is meant to be a nerf.

That's it, a nerf. I'm not going to fuck around with compensating this guy just to justify the nerf. Why? Cause I don't care. Compensate anyway you want but this is just my idea that I had.

Cassiopeia breaks that barrier about restricting players from buying certain items thus certain items can be restricted from certain champs when they are just too strong or flat out annoying with an item.

With fizz you have to be mindful about his dash since he can use it to dodge skill shots, THEN when he wastes/uses that you have an extra mobility spell you have to watch out for, and THEN if you manage to get to him when he has wasted his dash (or there are no targets to dash to) AND his troll poll is on cooldown you go for the skillshot and then bam he uses Zhonyas, and then when it ends he is RIGHT back to hopping around dashing through people. I don't care if he is somehow balanced in the eyes of plat players who have god like reaction times and good connections

AmetDeCrypt1 votes

players already were restricted from certain purchases. melee can't buy runan's and ranged can't get the hydra set. and yeah, riot tends to balance around the pro players who actually know shit. I don't mind too terribly coming from the dark souls school of "git gud" I'd rather have a matchup that's even whether I knew it or now than a matchup that caters to my ignorance and tantrums.

Sir Fuzzi1 votes

Let Fizz keep on-hits on his Q but forbid Sheen thank

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