Well Riot, mid mages are no longer viable. Thanks. Ill play some other game.

Meteor Driz·Dec 20, 2016·4 votes·1,019 views

I wanted to stay and keep playing, but you tried so hard to make me hate this game. Well Congrats. You have succeeded.

Went from past 3 years -> gold/plat/plat.

Mid main, true mages (vel koz, brand, viktor, xerath).

This season: 9 wins, 32 loses.

1-9 in placements, placed in silver 3.

Now demoted to silver 5.

Mages cant carry anymore. I'll go 22 kills, 88k damage and still lose CONSISTENTLY.

it doesnt matter which mage I do, how good I do...

MID MAGE IS NO LONGER VIABLE.

Hope you are happy, you have ruined everything I've ever worked for in this game.

Thousands of games, years of loyal play. Only to be FUCKED in the ass for no reason.

Thank you.

-Ex Mid main

25 Comments

WoonStruckDec 20, 20165 votes

And you lost vs a mid mage almost every time.

Sorry to tell you, but you're the issue, not mages. If anything, mages are over-tuned atm.

Meteor DrizDec 20, 20162 votes

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And you lost vs a mid mage almost every time.

Sorry to tell you, but you're the issue, not mages. If anything, mages are over-tuned atm.

So i go from consistently carrying for years and then all of sudden... POOF i suck now? 60%+ win ratios to 22%?

WoonStruckDec 20, 20164 votes

I had a really bad placement series too, despite being plat 3 before the reset, although it was after rewards. I still got placed in gold 4.

I don't find it any harder to carry, I just notice more 0/15 bot lanes at 10 minutes and completely useless junglers. However, that can happen to either side. Chalk it up to bad luck and keep busting out games.

Genocide VictimDec 20, 20162 votes

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So i go from consistently carrying for years and then all of sudden... POOF i suck now? 60%+ win ratios to 22%?

It's not that. Riot fucked up the reset.

JorenciceDec 20, 20161 votes

Statistics dont lie.

Mages didnt get a massive hidden nerf.

Plus as he said u played against mages.

Darth SidioussDec 20, 20164 votes

I feel OP the meta has taken a huge shift, the JG is way to influential this season, never ending party bus bot lane. Its a clown fiesta right now.

Meteor DrizDec 20, 20162 votes

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The feel OP the meta has taken a huge shift, the JG is way to influential this season, never ending party bus bot lane. Its a clown fiesta right now.

its complete garbage.

ChalizardDec 20, 20163 votes

It's not like only mages. There are now like 20-30 champions in league. I have gone back to Heroes of the Storm, it has changed in a good way and is now much more balanced and fun than league.

Meteor DrizDec 20, 20162 votes

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It's not like only mages. There are now like 20-30 champions in league. I have gone back to Heroes of the Storm, it has changed in a good way and is now much more balanced and fun than league.

I'm done as well. I've never seen the game this fucked up before its so fucking sad.

JorenciceDec 20, 20161 votes

The blademaster wants a word with you.

Think hes had a 65% winrate for months now.

ChalizardDec 21, 20161 votes

53% actually, there are champions in league with the same or even more win rate. Only ragnaros has crazy win-pick rate but it always happens when new champion is released and they will nerf him in next patch as they always do.

JorenciceDec 21, 20161 votes

Oh?

Kerrigan would like a word with you.

Shes one of the oldest characters.

And currently has a 58% winrate in diamond and master tier.

And has had it for a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time.

http://www.hotslogs.com/Sitewide/HeroDetails?Hero=Kerrigan

Trust me HoTS is no more balanced than LoL is...

Also samuro has a 55.7% percent winrate in plat+ (the only rankings that matter just like leauge)

Jesh sgt hammer has a 56% winrate plus for 4 months.

I didnt realize how unbalanced HoTS actually is until i started looking just now.

Akali is SO HOTDec 21, 20163 votes

>Mages are overpowered >Still manages to lose with them >Complains on boards

bad arcade kittyDec 20, 20162 votes

what

ShaydroxDec 20, 20161 votes

^ mages are in a very good state atm

bad arcade kittyDec 20, 20161 votes

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^ mages are in a very good state atm

but maw is still broken

VekknaDec 20, 20162 votes

Mid mages actually are fine, but the meta has changed to favor frequent bot lane roams for turret first blood. Try tweaking your build for more early roaming power. For example:

item 1056 item 3020 item 3113 instead of

item 1056 item 3802 item 3108 item 1052

The game is basically decided in bot lane by the junglers and roaming mids deep diving. Vel, Vik, Lux, and Xerath are all extremely good on dives, but you have to be there for when bot lane goes full clowncar.

And honestly, the other thing you can do with some mages when you're really ahead is to pass along some of that gold value to your team. Like, if I have my damage core completed on Lux, I'll build an item 3504 because it translates my gold into turret-pushing power in the form of a team-wide 20% aspd boost. And it's dirt cheap, and the AP is (sadly) not much lower than most AP carry items these days.

When I play Zyra mid I build item 3098 as my only mana item because it's more than enough regen and it pays for itself over time. I'll upgrade that later to item 3092 to counter invisibility or to item 2301 + item 3364 to completely dominate vision.

Also, with as hard as bot lane gets camped now and as early as the first turret goes down, it's really not a bad idea to have a gold income item anyway. 9 games out of 10 your adc will be farming your CS in mid by 10-12 minutes anyway, and you'll really fall behind if you haven't snowballed by then.

The new meta has definitely been jarring and hard to accept. But the reality is that games are decided in bot lane by the jungler, and the mid laners with the highest influence will be strong roamers or have high utility. There's a reason why Ziggs play rate increased by some 40% while his win rate also increased a full 2% (now over 54% average) - turret execute and a big ult in bot lane while safely farming in mid.

This is also why you see some interesting changes to bot lane pick/win rates with huge spikes for both Varus and Taric . They're both very strong on dive and anti-dive.

ElishevaDec 21, 20162 votes

Get good.

S0kaXDec 20, 20161 votes

You don't win by killing people, you win by objectives, teamfights and pushing. Be a leader.

Maximum MordeDec 20, 20161 votes

I play almost exclusively ap. Mid mages are fine.

Very Hard EngageDec 20, 20161 votes

im giving up ap mages this season not because they're bad (they're not, they still have their uses), but because its too difficult to hard carry with them like in old seasons, they simply lack the wave management they used to have. too much pressure on scoring an early lead to get minion advantage.

riots killing off burst/build options and is enforcing a second round of abilities across the board, no more land your cc ability and pop a carry.

now its all about team fights and scoring picks in a 2v1 situation.

items like item 3512 item 3060 just ruin the game for me, theres nothing i can do against them its outrageous.